Yugoslav wars - Page 4 - Historum

Yu_Višeslav · December 13th, 2010, 06:13 PM

If u want to blame someone... Blame the Extremists them and the Western government...All the sides were wrong no one was innocent in that war

Aspartam · December 13th, 2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Yu_Višeslav

If u want to blame someone... Blame the Extremists them and the Western government...All the sides were wrong no one was innocent in that war

You are right, but when we speak about the Yugoslavian wars the main guilt is upon the Western countries, more exact upon the ruling oligarchies of these states. The extremists have their guilt, but who did encourage them, who did give an incentive to them, who did paint them as the fighters for freedom and independency?

**sturm** · December 13th, 2010, 11:07 PM

There was also russian volunteers fighting on serbian side.
Here they speak with a serbian soldier

YouTube - Russian terrorists with Serbs attacking Bosnia

On the bosnian side we have mujihideens -

YouTube - The Hidden Army Of Radical Islam in Bosnia

Bosnian attorities today have problems with some who refused to go back to the Middle east.

**arras** · December 13th, 2010, 11:22 PM

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What is Yugoslavia? It is the southern gate of Europe, it is the key to Oil Belt (Middle East, Central Asia, Caucasus). So the 0geostrategic significance of Yugoslavia is great, awfully great. No wonder, the USA need puppets in the region.
...It was possible to work with Slobodan Miloshevich, to have some influence on him but he was not a puppet, he tried to have his own policy. Therefore the USA began the conflict. Now they have puppets, especially in Mafioso Republic Kosovo.

As well there is a psychological point: the intervention in Yugoslavia is the sign: guys, the time of Yalta and Potsdam are passing, do not think that Europe is the war-free zone, it isn't, silly, get accustomed to the new world order.

Yes, that is correct, but newer the less, turnaround was so sudden. I wander what was going on behind the scenes in Washington.

**arras** · December 13th, 2010, 11:23 PM

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I personally didn't supported anybody.
On the Balkan wars (modern and past), there are never good and bad side, all sides are aways worse then bad.

That was wise stance strum. If ever Western politicians were so wise.

**arras** · December 13th, 2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sturm

There was also russian volunteers fighting on serbian side.
Here they speak with a serbian soldier.

There were volunteers from many countries. I know there were few Slovak volunteers too. There was even more mercenaries. I know there were some fighting on Croat side in Dubrovnik for example.

**sturm** · December 13th, 2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by arras

There were volunteers from many countries. I know there were few Slovak volunteers too. There was even more mercenaries. I know there were some fighting on Croat side in Dubrovnik for example.

I see.
I also heard about greek volunteers fighting on serbian side. But i don't know if its credable information.

Aspartam · December 14th, 2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sturm

There was also russian volunteers fighting on serbian side.
Here they speak with a serbian soldier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIfaa...eature=related

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I consider the participation of foreign volunteers in a foreign civil war as a rather questionable, contradictory thing. This applies equally to the Russian volunteers in Yugoslavia.
As of Russia in whole I consider its acting during the wars in Yugoslavia (during Bosnian war, as well during the intervention of the "coalition forces") as shameful. The most of our ruling elites supported the western point of view, they did not things that they were able to do. I don’t say about the operation of Russian army, no. But even Russian TV and other media supported the anti-Serbian, pro-USA position! It is a shame! May be, some people from our elite hoped for some Western preferences...

**sturm** · December 14th, 2010, 12:02 AM

When NATO bombarded Serbia, i believe Russia have warned the serbs, that Russia will not get involved.

Aspartam · December 14th, 2010, 12:41 AM

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When NATO bombarded Serbia, i believe Russia have warned the serbs, that Russia will not get involved.

Yes, Miloshevich understood that Russia was weak for help, and it did not want to help, as well he got information from Russian official persons. ...Though our Duma was puffed up and made declarations in bellicose tone.