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Old December 15th, 2010, 05:31 AM   #11
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Re: The Hymn of Hate against England


Well I would imagine England had premium place inbetween Germany WWI enemies because of blockade. Blockade caused bad suffering especially on the "home front" with many basic things becoming unobtainable. Germany suffered bad shortages of food, they had to come up with all sorts of "[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ersatz"]ersatz[/ame]" substitutes. Bread they were making at the end of war was made of very little flour and many very surprising components. Those people had to be really desperate.
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Old December 15th, 2010, 05:34 AM   #12

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I suspect this backfired a little, the English were probably just ecstatic that they had managed to beat the French!
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I've driven in a score of countries and driving across the city of Catania takes the cake for scary in my book.
you probably did not drive througu Cairo or Bangkok
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Old December 15th, 2010, 05:43 AM   #14

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This poem, is about the English hating, it is the opposite of the OP

The Beginnings (written March 1915, pub. 1917)

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the English began to hate

They were not easily moved,
They were icy willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the English began to hate.

Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the English began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred,
It will not swiftly abate,
Through the chill years ahead,
When shall count from the date
That the English began to hate.
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Thanks for posting those things, beorna, I knew the first, but hadn't come across the Stukalied.

From WW2, here's Noel Coward with 'Don't lets be Beastly to the Germans':
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveW9Tw2JKE&feature=related"]YouTube - Noel Coward - Don't Let's Be Beastly To The Germans[/ame]

Don't let's be beastly to the Germans
When our victory is ultimately won,
It was just those nasty Nazis
Who persuaded them to fight,
And their Beethoven and Bach
Are really far worse than their bite!


Let's be meek to them
And turn the other cheek to them,
And try to bring out their latent sense of fun.
Let's give them full air parity
And treat the rats to charity
But don't let's be beastly to the Hun!


We must be kind,
And with an open mind
We must endevour to find a way
To let the German know that, when the war is over
They are not the ones who'll have to pay.


We must be sweet,
And tactful and discreet,
And when they've suffered defeat
We mustn't let them feel upset,
Or ever get the feeling
That we're cross with them or hate them,
Our future policy must be to reinstate them.


Don't let's be beastly to the Germans
When we've definitely got them on the run.
Let us treat them very kindly
As we would a valued friend;
We might send them some bishops
As a form of lease and lend.


Let's be sweet to them,
And day by day repeat to them
That sterilisation simply isn't done.
Let's help the dirty swine again
To occupy the Rhine again,
But don't let's be beastly to the Hun!


We must be just
And win their love and trust,
And in addition we must be wise,
And ask the conquered lands
To join our hands to aid them,
That would be a wonderful surprise!


For many years
They've been in floods of tears,
Because the poor little dears
Have been so wronged,
And only longed
To cheat the world,
Deplete the world,
And beat the world to blazes;
This is the moment when we ought to sing their praises!


Don't let's be beastly to the Germans,
For you can't deprive a gangster of his gun!
Though they've been a little naughty
To the Czechs and Poles and Dutch,
I don't suppose those countries
Really minded very much.


Let's be free with them
And share the BBC with them,
We mustn't prevent them basking in the sun.
Let's soften their defeat again
And build their blasted fleet again,
But don't let's be beastly to the Hun!


Don't let's be beastly to the Germans
When the age of peace and plenty has begun.
We must send them steel and oil and coal
And everything they need,
For their peaceable intentions
Can be always guaranteed!


Let's employ with them
A sort of "stength through joy" with them,
They're better than us at honest manly fun.
Let's let them feel they're swell again
And bomb us all to hell again,
But don't let's be beastly to the Hun!
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Wir fühlen in Horsten und Höhen
Des Adlers verwegenes Glück!
Wir steigen zum Tor
Der Sonne empor,
Wir lassen die Erde zurück.

Kamerad! Kamerad!
Alle Mädels müssen warten!
Kamerad! Kamerad!
Der Befehl ist da, wir starten!
Kamerad! Kamerad!
Die Losung ist bekannt:
Ran an den Feind!
Ran an den Feind!
Bomben auf Engelland!

Hört ihr die Motoren singen:
Ran an den Feind!
Hört ihr's in den Ohren klingen:
Ran an den Feind!
Bomben! Bomben!
Bomben auf Engelland!

Wir stellen den britischen Löwen
Zum letzten entscheidenden Schlag.
Wir halten Gericht.
Ein Weltreich zerbricht.
Das wird unser stolzester Tag!
Kamerad! Kamerad! Alle Mädels . . . .

Wir fliegen zur Weichsel und Warthe
Wir fliegen ins polnische Land
Wir trafen es schwer
Das feindliche Heer
Mit Blitzen und Bomben und Brand
Kamerad! Kamerad! Alle Mädels . . . .

So wurde die jüngste der Waffen
Im Feuer getauft und geweiht.
Vom Rhein bis zum Meer,
Das fliegende Heer,
So steh'n wir zum Einsatz bereit."



Translation (not very good)

we feel in the depths and at the heights
the eagle's audacious luck
we stand in the door
the sun up above
we leave the earth behind!

kamerad, kamerad
all the young girls/maidens must wait
kamerad kamerad the order is there/given, we start!
kamerad kamerad
the solution /answer is known!

down on the enemy, down on the enemy
Bombs on England!

we present/give to the british lion
the last deciding blow/strike
we hold before the court (we have the right)
an empire to destroy (the brits)
that will be our proudest day!

kamerad, etc

we fly to wieichsel und warte
we fly in the polish land!
we meet the enemy with bombs and lighting (blit) and fire!

chorus

so the youngest of our arms (the luftwaffe)
will be baptized and consecrated in fire
from the rhine to the see
the flying army (luftwaffe) will always be ready for action!
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interesting, Linschoten
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A humorous song from the First War, 'Oh it's a Lovely War!'
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QmpSh5RtGk"]YouTube - Oh it's a lovely war = Courtland and Jeffries[/ame]

Oh! It's a Lovely War!

Up to your waist in water,
Up to your eyes in slush,
Using the kind of language
That makes the sergeants blush;
Who wouldn't join the army,
That's what we all enquire,
Don't we pity the poor civilians
Sitting beside the fire ?

Chorus:
Oh! Oh! Oh! It's a lovely war,
Who wouldn't be a soldier, eh ?
Oh, it's a shame to take the pay.

As soon as reveille has gone
We feel just as heavy as lead,
But we never get up till the sergeant
Brings our breakfast up to bed.
What do you want with eggs and ham
When you've got plum and apple jam ?
Form fours! Right turn!
How shall we spend the money we earn ?

When does a soldier grumble ?
When does a soldier make a fuss ?
No one is more contented
In all the world than us.
Oh, it's a cushy life, boys,
Really, we love it so;
Once a fellow was sent on leave
And simply refused to go.

Come to the cook-house door, boys,
Sniff at the lovely stew,
Who is it says the colonel
Gets better grub than you ?
Any complaints this morning?
Do we complain ? Not we.
What's the matter with lumps of onion
Floating around the tea ?
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Old December 15th, 2010, 06:34 AM   #19

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[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gott_strafe_England"]Gott strafe England[/ame]!
...
Er strafe es!



Dont know the melody either, not sure if there ever was one. I guess the english are indeed estatic that they "beat" the french in this one because usually the french are way ahead of them. No wonder, since the enlish usually just against germany when they percieve it as winning and are against france if they percieve that as winning. Perpetual infighting.("Yes, Minister": "Ancient history, surely!.. Yes Minister, and current policy" ) So I dont expect neither hate nor love in the anglo-german relationship to go to the lofty hights that the franco-german relationship has (had). Germans and French are the arch-nemesis of one another, or used to. (Erbfeinde) Now the amitié franco-allemande is likewise much greater than the anglo-german friendship. We just always need a bit of time (and a front against us) to come to the conclusion again that its us together or being dragged down seperately.
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you probably did not drive througu Cairo or Bangkok
Driving through Bangkok isn't scary in the slightest, considering you don't MOVE half the time. Unless, of course, you're on a motorbike or a tuk-tuk.
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