The myth of “The War without hate” in North Africa - Page 3 - Historum

**Linschoten** · February 2nd, 2011, 02:45 PM

No that wasn't the reason why he went into North Africa, Hitler never undertook any action purely for the benefit of non-Germans; he was interested in oil-supplies and wanted to cut off Britain's communications to the East by gaining control of the Suez Canal.

**Qymaen** · February 2nd, 2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Linschoten

No that wasn't the reason why he went into North Africa, Hitler never undertook any action purely for the benefit of non-Germans; he was interested in oil-supplies and wanted to cut off Britain's communications to the East by gaining control of the Suez Canal.

But surely he figured out that if the Italians fell, Europe would be at risk.

**redcoat** · February 2nd, 2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Linschoten

No that wasn't the reason why he went into North Africa, Hitler never undertook any action purely for the benefit of non-Germans; he was interested in oil-supplies and wanted to cut off Britain's communications to the East by gaining control of the Suez Canal.

No. The stated and only reason the German's went into North Africa was to prevent the total collapse of the Italian forces there. Hitler was worried that British success over the Italians would cause the fall of Mussolini and threaten his southern flank during his invasion of the Soviet Union.

**bartieboy** · February 2nd, 2011, 03:05 PM

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If the Nazi's had taken over Egypt, do you think that Hitler would have had enough tact to not murder the Arabs and muslims?

maybe in the start...
but if the third reich didnt fall then i think it is quite possible he would later turn against the muslims

**bunyip** · February 2nd, 2011, 03:52 PM

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If the Nazi's had taken over Egypt, do you think that Hitler would have had enough tact to not murder the Arabs and muslims?
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Hitler and nazis favoured the arabs, why do you think their were so many groups simfied with the nazis, they felt the brits and french treated them like scum in their own lands and they did have a point,

Hitler wanted arabs free from colonialism wherelse the european allies were to enslavethe arabs under their thumb

The Nazis USED the Arabs,who are a Semitic people,just as the Jews once were.

The Holocaust would have eventually been extended to include the Arabs.

SudaniMujahid · February 2nd, 2011, 04:23 PM

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No that wasn't the reason why he went into North Africa, Hitler never undertook any action purely for the benefit of non-Germans; he was interested in oil-supplies and wanted to cut off Britain's communications to the East by gaining control of the Suez Canal.

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Yea that aswell!

SudaniMujahid · February 2nd, 2011, 04:24 PM

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The Nazis USED the Arabs,who are a Semitic people,just as the Jews once were.

The Holocaust would have eventually been extended to include the Arabs.

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Interesting, the arabs do come from an semitic people, the problem is why wud he come to arab lands?

**Nemowork** · February 3rd, 2011, 09:14 AM

They probably wouldn't, Hitler had an obsession with the east it was Mussolini who wanted North Africa to re-establish the old Roman possessions around the med.

The Germans were quite interested in taking control of Iran and its oil fields which would also give them a back door into Russia, they went as far as attempting a coup there before an British/Russian alliance (aided by the Israeli IRGUN curiously) put a stop to it.

The ironic thing is if they had bothered to do a geological survey they would have found that the empty Libyan desert where the Italian forces massed was floating on enough oil to make Fascist Italy rich into the next millenium, the whole war and the Italians defeat was totally meaningless.

PanzerWolf · February 3rd, 2011, 12:47 PM

I believe that Hitler helped italian troops only for the deep respect that he felt for his Ally. After the Soviet Union invasion, instead, he desired to reach Suez Canal and the oil wells in Iraq and to close the pincer over the Caucasus oil wells.

SudaniMujahid · February 3rd, 2011, 01:01 PM

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I believe that Hitler helped italian troops only for the deep respect that he felt for his Ally. After the Soviet Union invasion, instead, he desired to reach Suez Canal and the oil wells in Iraq and to close the pincer over the Caucasus oil wells.

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It always has to be about oil !