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Old March 30th, 2011, 06:06 AM   #41

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ya was flicking through it and it just looks increible, its such a large book and yet it only covers 6 months of the conflict, sure would be nice if the author were to cointinue with more books on the conflict. i like hes imagination in giving it a name like war without garlands. it shows a bit of imagination as most authors just name their book after what ever battle or operation it on. hes other book 'it never snows in september' also looks really good but for now i'm concentrating on the eastern front

i'm also waited on the arrival of 'Leningrad state of seige', very short looking along with the authors other book 'The Retreat' but it has excellent reviws so lets hope it dosent disapoint
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Old March 30th, 2011, 06:13 AM   #42

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Another good book is 'Enemy at the Gate', by William Craig. This deals with 6th army at Stalingrad. A good read.

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arras;528766]Ok, so lets look at actual data "as are known now":

Population: Soviet Union (1939) -190 mil. : Germany (1938) -73 mil. (don't know if this includes Austria and Sudeteland)
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Another source states German population including Austria in 1939 at 76 mil.

Some German allies briefly:
Italy: 40 mil.
Rumania: 15-20 mil.
Hunagry: 5-10 mil.
Finland: 3-4 mil.
Slovakia: 3 mil.
Bulgaria: 6 mil.

And you should take in to consideration population of occupied territories under German control which was used in economy and in limited numbers for military service ...basically most of the continental Europe.
Also, Soviet Union lost very rapidly populous Ukraine, Baltic States, Belarus and Western Russia. This population could not be used for revival of Red Army and should be taken of from overall Soviet Population.
If Russian High command could concentrate enough manpower on the main direction of attack, it is only telling haw good the Russian High command was.
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Another Eastern Front myth is that fighting in Greece and Yugoslavia delayed the start of operation Barbarossa. Same argue that if Hitler could start this operation earlier, he will not be defeated at Moscow.
As recent research has shown, weather and general logistic issues, not the Balkan campaign of spring 1941, led Hitler to set the date for attack at June 22.
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Another Eastern Front myth is that fighting in Greece and Yugoslavia delayed the start of operation Barbarossa. Same argue that if Hitler could start this operation earlier, he will not be defeated at Moscow.
As recent research has shown, weather and general logistic issues, not the Balkan campaign of spring 1941, led Hitler to set the date for attack at June 22.
That is quit interesting Edward, can you point me to some sources?
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That is quit interesting Edward, can you point me to some sources?
latest edition of "A warld at Arms-A global History of World War II' by Gerhard L. Weinberg chapter "germany heads east" (very well sourced book IMO).
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latest edition of "A warld at Arms-A global History of World War II' by Gerhard L. Weinberg chapter "germany heads east" (very well sourced book IMO).
Thanks Edward, I will sure look in to it if I manage to get my hands on copy.
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theres something that been on my mind lately

when germany was thrown back from moscow by Zukovs winter offensive why tell me dident germany resume an attack on moscow in febuary when the soviet offensive had peatted out with heavy losses. by then the russians no longer had the siberian reserves that they had had a few months earlier.
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Because taking Moscow was military blunder. Too many people in the West think that taking Moscow would lead in to Soviet capitulation. They probably newer heard about man called Napoleon.

Taking oilfields in Caucasus and cutting Soviets from Black Sea was much better strategy.
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Same historians attribute the ”southern” German offensive to the strategic idea of breaking through Caucasus Mountain and join Rommel somewhere in Iran cutting the Iran supply route to soviet Union, and eventually join Japanese in India. Additional benefits from this offensive will be conquest of Soviet oil fields around Baku. There is a lot of evidence that it could be true but also there is an evidence against this theory.
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