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September 5th, 2011, 01:30 AM
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#1 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Aug 2010 From: Central Macedonia Posts: 17,763 | Fall of Singapore (1941)
Japan defeated Britain too easily... despite numerical superiority.
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September 5th, 2011, 02:44 AM
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#2 | | Lecturer
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 259 |
I think Churchill was to blame for this, he liked to interfere with military planning, and he left the position in Singapore untenable
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September 5th, 2011, 02:50 AM
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#3 | | Making Dennis Leary Proud
Joined: Jul 2010 From: Georgia, USA Posts: 5,205 |
The whole thing can be equated to watching a horror movie. You just wanted to shout, "BEHIND YOU, YOU IDIOT!".
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September 5th, 2011, 03:29 AM
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#4 | | Forum Curmudgeon
Joined: May 2009 From: A tiny hamlet in the Carolina Sandhills Posts: 11,219 |
Interesting film. Thank you for sharing it.
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September 5th, 2011, 03:47 AM
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#5 | | Grand Master of the Praxeum
Joined: Oct 2008 From: The Bright Center of the Universe Posts: 4,290 |
Bungled Pommy defense that cost Australian lives. Typical.
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September 5th, 2011, 03:50 AM
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#6 | | nonpareil
Joined: Aug 2010 From: Wessex Posts: 7,830 |
It least it provides an opportunity for an Aussie whinge.
My uncle was captured there and had quite an unpleasant time afterwards.
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September 5th, 2011, 03:55 AM
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#7 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Aug 2010 From: Central Macedonia Posts: 17,763 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Linschoten It least it provides an opportunity for an Aussie whinge.
My uncle was captured there and had quite an unpleasant time afterwards. | I guess you don't want to share more details with us....
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September 5th, 2011, 04:03 AM
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#8 | | nonpareil
Joined: Aug 2010 From: Wessex Posts: 7,830 |
He was kept half-starved in a prison-camp, was beaten by the guards etc., the usual thing, it was not something that he liked to talk about. He was quite a strange man when I knew him in later life, apparently his experiences during that time had a lasting effect on his character (not altogether in a bad way, he was kind and gentle, but tended to shrink away from contact with anyone whom he didn't know).
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September 5th, 2011, 04:05 AM
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#9 | | Scholar
Joined: Nov 2010 From: Cornwall Posts: 655 |
Thessalonian - "Japan defeated Britain"? Really? I think what you mean to say in English is that the Japanese took Singapore too easily. If you are going to write a manual about the most incompetent way to defend a position then General Percival, with a remarkable display of defeatism, topping off incredibly stupid planning both on his part and his superiors, would be the role model. So many fundamental errors in one - battleships to fight carriers, moving in thousands of troops immediately before surrender, lightning attack from behind, no guns facing that way and no defence of the water supply.
For the record it cost a lot of British, Australian, Indian, native and other lives.
But the only consolation is that even with the most brilliant strategist in command, Singapore would not have held out long against the Japanese at that time. Never in a million years. So Percival's failings just accelerated the inevitable.
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September 5th, 2011, 04:13 AM
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#10 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Aug 2010 From: Central Macedonia Posts: 17,763 | Quote:
Originally Posted by johnincornwall Thessalonian - "Japan defeated Britain"? Really? I think what you mean to say in English is that the Japanese took Singapore too easily. If you are going to write a manual about the most incompetent way to defend a position then General Percival, with a remarkable display of defeatism, topping off incredibly stupid planning both on his part and his superiors, would be the role model. So many fundamental errors in one - battleships to fight carriers, moving in thousands of troops immediately before surrender, lightning attack from behind, no guns facing that way and no defence of the water supply.
For the record it cost a lot of British, Australian, Indian, native and other lives.
But the only consolation is that even with the most brilliant strategist in command, Singapore would not have held out long against the Japanese at that time. Never in a million years. So Percival's failings just accelerated the inevitable. | Yes it was a great victory for Japan. I refer to the battle not the war!
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