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Old December 13th, 2012, 02:08 PM   #311

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Anexample of poor damage control - "don't let water into the ship - that's what the enemy are trying to do". Some, at least, learned a lesson from that. If HMS Nelson's DC team hadn't used judicious counterflooding to keep her on an even keel, she'd almost certainly have been lost. Ark finally succumbed when the water flooded the uptakes, and put the boilers out. In the original plans she was to have had diesel generators which would probably have given enough pumping capacity to get her to Gib., but they were replaced by additional turbogenerators.

As I recall, it was single torpedo that did the damage. A sad and somewhat embarassing end for a great ship.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 02:42 PM   #312
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Anexample of poor damage control - "don't let water into the ship - that's what the enemy are trying to do". Some, at least, learned a lesson from that. If HMS Nelson's DC team hadn't used judicious counterflooding to keep her on an even keel, she'd almost certainly have been lost. Ark finally succumbed when the water flooded the uptakes, and put the boilers out. In the original plans she was to have had diesel generators which would probably have given enough pumping capacity to get her to Gib., but they were replaced by additional turbogenerators.

A worse example of damage control is the sinking of the Japanese aircraft carrier Taiho, which sank after a single torpedo hit. The damage caused by the torpedo was relatively minor and the ship had resumed flight operation shortly after being hit. It sank, because in an attempt to ventilate fumes from a ruptured fuel tank, the repair officer dispersed fumes throughout the ship, turning the ship into one giant bomb, which inevitably exploded.
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A worse example of damage control is the sinking of the Japanese aircraft carrier Taiho, which sank after a single torpedo hit. The damage caused by the torpedo was relatively minor and the ship had resumed flight operation shortly after being hit. It sank, because in an attempt to ventilate fumes from a ruptured fuel tank, the repair officer dispersed fumes throughout the ship, turning the ship into one giant bomb, which inevitably exploded.
Did you hear the one about the U-Boat that was sunk by a misused toilet..?

The Type VIIC boat U-1206 - German U-boats of WWII - uboat.net
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Old December 13th, 2012, 11:15 PM   #314

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This video has footage from pre-war and WW2. Unfortunately the first bit is home video of a visit to the wrecksite.
Vondst 0 16 - YouTube

The full story of the sole survivor, Cornelis de Wolf can be seen here:-
Dutch Submarines: The story of Cor de Wolf, sole survivor of Hr. Ms. O 16, which was lost in 1941 in the South China Sea
Oh, the distractions of real life...


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After being captured in battle, the ship was lost in a storm near the Azores in 1591. An estimated 200 Spanish sailors who captured her lost their lives in the sinking.
and the name of the Ship... HMS Revenge
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Late getting here. But it's a great thread. Here's my initial contribution.

BB-40. USN Ships--USS New Mexico (BB-40)

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FYI. Uboat.net has just completed a comprehensive section on the British T-Class submarines. What I find interesting is looking at the chronology of the British losses. They lost one boat after another till mid 1943, then losses quickly ceased. By contrast, the Germans called the period before 1943 the "happy times" because they could operate with virtual impunity. The reversal is striking.

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^ Thanks for the link Diddyrick, Uboat.net is a great site.

I expect you know these ones already but I'll post them anyway -

German U-Boats and Battle of the Atlantic

U-boat Archive

The second one in particular has a wealth of primary sources.
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FYI. Uboat.net has just completed a comprehensive section on the British T-Class submarines. What I find interesting is looking at the chronology of the British losses. They lost one boat after another till mid 1943, then losses quickly ceased. By contrast, the Germans called the period before 1943 the "happy times" because they could operate with virtual impunity. The reversal is striking.

T class Submarines - Allied Warships of WWII - uboat.net
U-boat.net is a fantastic site. I go there often.

Another interesting to point out about the British submarines, is that they seemd to be well geared and had a better record of sinking other submarines. They sunk alot more U-boats than vice versa, and A British Submarine (namely the HMS Venturer, captained by the brilliant Jimmy Launders) got the only ever recorded submerged kill involving two submarines, when he sunk U-864.
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