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Old November 1st, 2011, 10:38 AM   #1
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Atrocities in war


"More than one-third said torture of civilians was permissible to get information, and 17% viewed all civilians as insurgents."

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Old November 1st, 2011, 10:45 AM   #2

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war brings out the best and worst in man and i believe no army is ever immune to atrocity's being carried out by its soldiers. looking at it from the soldiers point of view and trying to imagine what they may have gone through themselves leads to a better understanding. far away from home in unfamiliar territory they are asked to kill the enemy troops, how a person handles themselves in war really depends on the person as not everyone will descend into a monster or stay an angel, in the circumstances of the situation.

i ask you all to try to image your closest and best friend being brutally shot down in front of you, seeing a dozen mutilated bodies of your fellow soldiers, then ask yourself how would you react to taking enemy soldiers prisoner who you knew were responsible for the actions.

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One question to ask yourself is this: Who is standing on whose native soil?
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When you fight a war in a place where people live, work, and sleep, the answer to that question should be obvious.
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the attrocity of war

an absolute?
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 02:31 PM   #6

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War itself is an atrocity. And, yes, civilians getting caught up and killed is rather inevitable. War is a perfect example of why we are both advanced (technology, strategy) and primitive (killing, torture). So like my best friend irishcrusader said, yes, it brings out the best and worst in men. Personally, I wonder why such terrible things have been committed to civilians particularly in the 20th century. American troops did unspeakably bad things in the Vietnam War, and the Holocaust and Rape of Nanking speak for themselves.
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I have yet to read of a war in which both (or all) sides did not commit atrocities against prisoners and civilians.
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I have yet to read of a war in which both (or all) sides did not commit atrocities against prisoners and civilians.
1812?

I'm not saying none happened, but I haven't heard of any. Maybe someone more informed could correct/confirm me
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1812?

I'm not saying none happened, but I haven't heard of any. Maybe someone more informed could correct/confirm me
I would imagine the British weren't on their best behavior in Washington, but I agree that there are no "outstanding" incidents associated with this war - at least on the British-American front.

The accompanying war against the "Red Sticks" Creeks was full of the atrocities and counter-atrocities typical of Indian wars.
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You don't have to be standing on anyone's soil.

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Civilians Continue to Bear the Brunt of US Drone War in Pakistan

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