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View Poll Results: Who was the best Wehrmacht Commander?
Erich von Manstein 34 43.04%
Heinz Guderian 13 16.46%
Gerd von Rundstedt 2 2.53%
Erwin Rommel 18 22.78%
Kurt Student 0 0%
Walter Model 6 7.59%
Fedor von Bock 0 0%
Karl Donitz 1 1.27%
Albert Kesselring 3 3.80%
Gunther von Kludge 0 0%
Nikolaus von Falkenhorst 0 0%
Hermann Hoth 0 0%
Friedrich Paulus 2 2.53%
Other 0 0%
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Old June 12th, 2012, 08:51 PM   #31

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Manstein by a country mile Kesselring along with goering lost the air war with by far the best airforce so no cigar for him i,m afraid !.I,m glad we didn,t feel the full effect of mansteins tactical brilliance due to the interferrance of Hitler as inept a military tactician as you are liable to encounter.
you got that right, left to his own he could have given the russians a very nasty shock in the summer of 1943 had his proposed back-hand tactic been applied yet hitler for all his wisdom decided this plan was too risky (because he couldn't understand how it worked) and instead wanted an offensive to be launched leaded them to operation Citadel on the kursk salient. even after that if Manstein could have had the operational freedom to pull back when he needed and conduct the campaign how he wanted then he still could have dealt the red army some heavy losses yet hitler again for all his wisdom did not like the sound of retreat and would refuse permission.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #32

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I see the Rommel myth is as strong as ever in this poll.
I'd normally go with von Manstein but he's got enough supporters so I voted for Kesselring, highly competent and gratly underrated commander in my view.
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Old June 17th, 2012, 05:20 AM   #33

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From what I've read, the Rommel Myth was born on the German side of the lines. He used his men sparingly. His motto was "A ton of sweat is better to lose than an ounce of blood."

OK, that quote isn't even close, or even close to being close - but you know what I mean. That was his guiding principle.
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From what I've read, the Rommel Myth was born on the German side of the lines. He used his men sparingly. His motto was "A ton of sweat is better to lose than an ounce of blood."

OK, that quote isn't even close, or even close to being close - but you know what I mean. That was his guiding principle.
Certainly Rommel makes for a great story. He was no doubt greatly admired by his troops. Do you think it was mainly the extended supply lines across the width of North Africa that stopped his drive at 1st El Alamein?
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... Do you think it was mainly the extended supply lines across the width of North Africa that stopped his drive at 1st El Alamein?
If the meaning of "extended supply lines" also includes the fact that Allied crypt-analysts were reading the sailing schedules of the supply ships bound for Libya, then yes. In a war, everything is connected and everything happens at the margin.
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If the meaning of "extended supply lines" also includes the fact that Allied crypt-analysts were reading the sailing schedules of the supply ships bound for Libya, then yes. In a war, everything is connected and everything happens at the margin.
Very good point. It must have been frustrating to Rommel that so many of his supply ships "happened" to be sunk. I seem to remember that for a while Rommel had a spy in Alexandria I think that fed him a great deal of info on the Allies. When that source was stopped, he never regained equal footing again in the intelligence war. Of course later the British cracked the enigma machine.
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The Gold Standard would be for the enemy general to wake up at 5 am and instead of seeing his orderly with a thermos full of hot coffee, I'm standing there with a bottle of Scotch(not the expensive kind - it's wartime, after all).
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I see the Rommel myth is as strong as ever in this poll.
I'd normally go with von Manstein but he's got enough supporters so I voted for Kesselring, highly competent and gratly underrated commander in my view.
I second this. Kesselring is one of the most underrated commanders of the war, IMHO. Considering he was a Luftwaffe general (although he didn't start his military career in the air force), he was highly effective in Italy, especially given his position.
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I second this. Kesselring is one of the most underrated commanders of the war, IMHO. Considering he was a Luftwaffe general (although he didn't start his military career in the air force), he was highly effective in Italy, especially given his position.
I also admire Kesselring. He proved to be a difficult nut to crack.
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A minor correction to my post - he was, of course, a field marshal by the end of the war, not just a mere general.
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