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amazedkat June 24th, 2012 05:47 PM

would the nazis have stood a better chance of winning the 'battle of the bulge'
 
if they had sherman tanks instead of those big stupid tanks they in fact had

been to the battle area for a visit, and it's all small lanes and steep hills and forests, there's a tiger 11 still on display where it got stuck in the battle.

Sultan44 June 24th, 2012 05:55 PM

Shermans for the big tanks they had? The german tanks were effeciently the best of the war, using shermans would've just made their chances worse, As for the battle of the bulge, They lost because of a stagnation of Fuel, several Advancing Armored columns were out of fuel before they were even there

dagul June 24th, 2012 06:05 PM

.... the air dominance of the Allies, and dwindling Nazi supply.

Panthera tigris altaica June 24th, 2012 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultan44 (Post 1095187)
Shermans for the big tanks they had? The german tanks were effeciently the best of the war, using shermans would've just made their chances worse, As for the battle of the bulge, They lost because of a stagnation of Fuel, several Advancing Armored columns were out of fuel before they were even there

They planned on capturing Americans stocks to fuel the tanks. But the under valued resistance put up by Americans, plus them blowing up their own stock to deny it to the Germans played a part in slowing the drive down immensely.

Romulus June 24th, 2012 06:36 PM

I think by the time the Battle of the Bulge even occurred it was pretty much over for the Nazis. They had a war on two fronts, one with a nonstop Soviet horde bearing down on Germany from the East. And in the West even if they "won" I seriously doubt they could have held off the Western powers forever. Remember, Nazi Germany did not have the luxury of production the Soviets and U.S had by 1944.

Sultan44 June 24th, 2012 06:37 PM

American Resistence would'n have meant something against new model Panzerkampfwagen VI's, V's, IV's, Well, except if they were out of fuel and could'n do Anything from Moving to rotating the turrets

Belloc June 24th, 2012 06:38 PM

Maybe if they had T-34s instead.

Sultan44 June 24th, 2012 06:39 PM

T-34's would've been even More worse.....

Sultan44 June 24th, 2012 06:40 PM

Though they could rotate a turret and do some pointless things without fuel in a T-34

sylla1 June 24th, 2012 06:41 PM

The Ardennes offensive was an immense military blunder from its very beginning; not only were its objectives essentially impossible to be reached against an overwhelmingly superior enemy, but it also made exponentially easier the direct invasion of the Reich by the Soviets, even more dangerous for the former than the western Allies.

Herr Hitler & co were simply already in total denial of the tautological fact that Germany and her last allies had already absolutely lost the war; period.


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