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Old September 10th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #41
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Virgil I don't understand what you are getting at at all.

What about the raid on Fort Eban-Emael?
That wasn't a raid. It was an assault.

A raid is when an armed force (usually land based but also include air squadrons) attacks a target for a short period and then executes a planned withdrawal.

So Dieppe, St Nazaire, the Dambusters mission were all raids.

Eban-Emael was like Arnhem, an assault intended to hold a tactical location until relieved.
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Old September 10th, 2012, 01:27 PM   #42

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The raid on Camp Cabanatuan, Philippines in WWII. US Army Rangers and Filipino fighters infiltrated some 30 miles behind Japanese lines to rescue some 500 allied POW's. This successful raid is the subject of the fine book "Ghost Soldiers". Tremendous support and effort by the Filipinos in transporting the POW's, most of whom were not able to walk back, is the stuff of legend.
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What on earth are you talking about?
Sorry, I was a little buzzed when I posted this. I was referring the fact that Skorzeny, despite being an infamous Nazi, was able to have an illustrious career after the war, including advisor to Juan and Eva Peron.
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ACW: Before Grierson's raid, perhaps Van Dorn's raid on Holly Springs should be mentioned - even though it only bought six more months for Vicksburg.

Can anyone recommend an overview of British Commando operations in WW2 (for a 20th century warfare idiot )?
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Another "raider" I admire is Orde Wingate. His unorthodox tactics with the Chindits makes for a great story.
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I think it's fair to say that the Brits did an awful lot of sneaky weasel stuff, probably more than anyone else cos we were facing the Nazi Empire with no direct fighting on mainland Europe other than North Africa/Far East until 1944, that's ample time to attack using guile and cunning.

This Commando series is great:






It goes on for 12 vids, some of these stories are amazing and begging for a movie to be made. Evidence yet again that the truth is far more exciting than fiction.

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How about the liberation of Mussolini by Otto Skorzeny?

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I already posted that (post #16)

Damn! I'm glad that Virgil wasn't on the lash when I posted, I don't think my tact and diplomacy skills are anywhere close to Naomasa298's and the thread might have been closed.
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Old September 11th, 2012, 03:10 AM   #48

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The raid on Camp Cabanatuan, Philippines in WWII. US Army Rangers and Filipino fighters infiltrated some 30 miles behind Japanese lines to rescue some 500 allied POW's. This successful raid is the subject of the fine book "Ghost Soldiers". Tremendous support and effort by the Filipinos in transporting the POW's, most of whom were not able to walk back, is the stuff of legend.
Thats was a fine operation. Im surprised no-one mentioned that earlier; including myself.
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The kidnapping of Colonel Kriepe

Kriepe was the German military governor of Crete. In April 1944 two British SOE agents and several Greek resistance fighters infiltrated by parachute and by sea. Dressed at German soldiers the two British agents set up a fake checkpoint and stopped the highly unpopular Governor's car, the Greek agents coshed the driver and Kriepe was shoved to the floor of the car and sat on. The team then drove the length of Crete, passed through 22 checkpoints until they ditched the car and took to the mountains. There was then an 18 day hunt where the SOE team evaded half of the German Army and Luftwaffe on the Island until they could escape by a disguised RN fishing boat.
It was reported that when the German command on Crete got news that Kriepe had arrived as a prisoner in Cairo they broke open the champagne.

A pretty accurate film, Ill met by Moonlight was made of the action.



The Nyadzonya Raid

On 9 August 1976 72 members of the Selous Scouts infiltrated into Mozambique from Rhodesia in a column of captured or disguised vehicles, the White soldiers were blacked-up and wore wooly wigs. On joining the main road they passed several checkpoints where the Frelimo guards saluted and waved them through. On reaching the town of Nyadzonya they cut the phone lines and drove into the Nyadzonya terrorist training camp, one jeep had a "Ghetto Blaster" linked to a loudspeaker system playing "freedom songs". About four thousand terrorists were on parade and they cheered as the Rhodesian column drove into the camp and took up formation around the parade ground.
The Officer with the loudspeaker announced in Shona "Zimbabwe Tatona"---we have captured Zimbabwe.
This made the the terrorists go ape, they danced and jigged and clustered around the Rhodesian vehicles, other terrorists left their huts and even the guards swarmed onto the parade ground to join the party.
Then the boys opened up. .303 machine guns, FNs, captured AK47s and SKS's--about 1100 terrorists were killed and a substantial number incapacitated for good. The count would have been higher but the ammunition ran out.
The team returned to Rhodesia, eliminating the Frelimo checkpoints as they left.
Four of the Scouts received minor sratches that did not require professional medical attention.
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This Commando series is great:


It goes on for 12 vids, some of these stories are amazing and begging for a movie to be made. Evidence yet again that the truth is far more exciting than fiction.
Thank you, m'lord.
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