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View Poll Results: Should the United States nuked Hanoi during the vietnam war?
Yes we should have nuked Hanoi 5 6.49%
No we should have not nuked Hanoi 72 93.51%
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Old November 8th, 2012, 10:20 AM   #41

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Look up "The Domino Theory". Communist government do not put themselves up for re-election every few years, once they get in they are like lice or cockroaches, you have to blast them out or let them die off.
Ah, and this was exactly my point so no need to look up the Domino Theory. What I was trying to say in not so many words as this is that the domino theory is bullshit stupidity. The communist way of life had no real appeal to developed nations. It's kind of like how we see Berlin during the cold war. One side had bad quality of life where the other had relatively higher quality of life. Why would communism have any real appeal in the West? Moreover, I think the US did a pretty good job of demonizing communism so my point is, Vietnam was unjustified in hindsight because we KNOW that there was no such thing as a unified international communist movement. Communist countries throughout the Cold War had almost no real ideological allegiance to each other. Since the Soviets were dolling out guns to any communist revolutions that would have them, the US seems to have concluded that they were in cahoots to dominate the region and eventually the West... I call shenanigans.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 10:38 AM   #42

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The US should have nucked the whole world.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 01:02 PM   #43

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USAs self image is too tied up with slogans like freedom, justice, good/bad etc. Nuking someone would do huge damage to the USA itself. Imagine the social changes it could ignite..... in one direction or another.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #44

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How can any decent person suggest killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in the interest of indirectly stopping Soviet influence? How very stupid and unpleasant.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 06:20 PM   #45

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a lot of those hundreds of thousands civilians would have shot American troops if we entered North Vietnam
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Old November 8th, 2012, 07:16 PM   #46

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a lot of those hundreds of thousands civilians would have shot American troops if we entered North Vietnam
...So? Many Americans would doubtless shoot foreign invading troops, does that mean Los Angeles, New York, Boston, DC, or any other city here deserves to be nuked? That is by far the worst justification I've seen yet. If the US was willing to nuke cities to win stupid, pointless proxy wars, then by all means those civilians would be justified in shooting American troops! Hell, invading the North at all would be pointless and stupid as well.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #47

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Well I think the united states should have dropped a Nuke on Hanoi, North Vietnam during the Vietnam war. I say that because North Vietnam would have been nuked then North Vietamises troops would have probally pulled out or would have been confused.
Who allowed this moronic thread?
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Old November 8th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #48

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...Hell, invading the North at all would be pointless and stupid as well.
I disagree, unless you meant that the war itself was stupid. In which case, I agree,.

Once the decision was made to go to war in Vietnam however, there should have been an invasion of the North. You don't win wars by solely playing defense and fighting with one arm tied behind your back.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 04:20 AM   #49

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I disagree, unless you meant that the war itself was stupid. In which case, I agree,.

Once the decision was made to go to war in Vietnam however, there should have been an invasion of the North. You don't win wars by solely playing defense and fighting with one arm tied behind your back.
Well the entire purpose of the war was to defend the Republic of Vietnam from a communist insurgency that was being given covert (and later overt) support by their northern neighbors. It wasn't exactly a traditional kind of war. In any case, I do also happen to think the war itself was stupid. The Southern government was massively corrupted and the country wasn't helping us defend them very well and the cost was far, far higher than it was worth.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 06:09 AM   #50

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So who are the other three people who think that nukes should be used like firecrackers?

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Anyways, What is the difference between US chemical weapons (Which we hear about a lot and N. Vietnamese & VC terrorism in all it's forms? I don't think there is any, but obviously the blind disagree with me. So yeah, whatever.
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It's about scale. What are the long-term health ramifications for the US public because of the Vietnam War?

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There have been a few references to chemical weapons in this thread.

I would just like to note that Agent Orange was not a chemical weapon, it was a defoliant. At the time it was being used it wasn't widely known to be toxic, which is also why so many American veterans of the war were exposed to it.
It can destroy forests but it's toxicity isn't well known? Way to be responsible there. Seems to me that someone should have at least raised the question of long-term effects...
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