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Old November 22nd, 2012, 05:14 AM   #91

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Not the best day for irony or critical reading, it seems.

No doubt what the discriminatory marketing of our good ol' Colonel was counting on.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 04:22 PM   #92
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Don't underestimate Arabic military forces, properly armed and deployed these people are almost unstoppable. Lack of advanced weaponry, is my thought.
In 48 the Jews beat better equipped arab armies, so they are far from unstoppable, Arab Iraq was unable to defeat a weaken Iran, example after example through the last 75 years
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in 1948 had large numbers, and better/more equipment and the best equipped trained Arab unit the Arab Legion had strict orders to stay within the Arab proposed partition.

The Myth of the outnumbered plucky Zionists is just that.
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How about the notion that generally Arab culture does not value high-tech research and development and does not idigenously train to the same standards as Western (or Israeli) armies... But would prefer to train their officer class in Russia and Britain and buy its de-tuned equipment from them rather than set up their own R&D and officer training colleges?
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Actually, the French colonial Moroccan and Algerian divisions (amazing as it may sound, Arabs) commanded by General Juin (below) were reportedly the Allied troops most feared by Generalfeldmarschall Kesselring in the Battle of Monte Cassino.

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Not to rain on anyone's discriminatory parade, but ethnicities simply don't lose (or win) wars.

At the risk of overstating the obvious, wars are simply won by the side with the best trained soldiers & officers, using the best weapons, equipment, & logistics and under the best command who may commit less & lesser mistakes.

And yup, the other side tends to lose.

Easy as that.

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Not to rain on anyone's discriminatory parade, but ethnicities simply don't lose (or win) wars.

At the risk of overstating the obvious, wars are simply won by the side with the best trained soldiers & officers, using the best weapons, equipment, & logistics and under the best command who may commit less & lesser mistakes.

And yup, the other side tends to lose.

Easy as that.
Perhaps it's to do with how certain cultural groups value those very things that make the difference between winning and losing. It is not like they do not have the money to provide R&D for their own weaponry or colleges to train their officers. They just don't generally have the attitude to do all that is required technically. The Iraqis for example never managed to destroy a single US MBT during the two Thunder Runs into Baghdad.
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one reason i know is that arabs assign generals whom are proponent of the one man regime. things like a general's tactical thinking and military abilities are rescinded.
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Perhaps it's to do with how certain cultural groups value those very things that make the difference between winning and losing. It is not like they do not have the money to provide R&D for their own weaponry or colleges to train their officers. They just don't generally have the attitude to do all that is required technically. The Iraqis for example never managed to destroy a single US MBT during the two Thunder Runs into Baghdad.
"Winning and losing"???

With all due respect, this statement couldn't be any more discriminatory.

Did this ethnic diagnosis come from the fact that hey were defeated by the most powerful army ever?
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