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Old November 13th, 2012, 05:33 PM   #11
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Prior to 1 September 1939, there were many conflicts which could be classified as a prelude of WW II. The most important, very often forgotten by historians, were Soviet-Japanese border clashes between 1932 and 1939.
The last of these clashes was Battle of Khalkan Gol. It was a decisive battle of undeclared Soviet-Japanese Boarder War with decisive Soviet victory.
This battle was an important factor which cemented Japanese “southern strike” decision advocated by Japanese Imperial Navy. The Army preferred to strike north, towards Soviet territory but the bloody nose they received at Khalkan Gol made their case untenable.
Japanese decision to strike south instead north, saved Soviet Union from almost certain destruction and changed the course of WWII
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Old November 14th, 2012, 01:48 AM   #12

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I would say Munich 1938. Even Chamberlin saw that Hitler could not be trusted and realised war was inevitable. He embarked on a rearmament programme. If you think Britain wasnt ready in 1940, take a look at our armed forces in 1938.
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when GB and FRA declared war on Germany.
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On 29th of October, 1936.
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Also of course, some writers describe WW2 as an inevitable continuation of WW1.
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Also of course, some writers describe WW2 as an inevitable continuation of WW1.

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Old November 14th, 2012, 08:31 AM   #18

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Arguably, the bombing of Wielun was an opening act of Invasion of Poland
“The bombing of Wieluń refers to the bombing of the Polish town of Wieluń by the German Luftwaffe on 1 September 1939. The Luftwaffe started bombing Wielun at 4:40 am, five minutes before the shelling of Westerplatte, which has traditionally been considered the beginning of World War II. It is considered to be one of the first terror bombings in history and first in Europe in this war. It killed an estimated 1,300 civilians, injured hundreds more and destroyed 90 percent of the town centre. There were no military targets of any importance in the area. The casualty rate was more than twice as high as Guernica.”
already at 4:33 3 Ju87B, starting from Elbing, attacked the bridge at Dirschau. So this was perhaps the first event of WWII. 12 minutes before the start of the attack of the Schleswig-Holstein. The attack on Wielun was at 5.30. I inclined to believe in Polish withnesses and thought about a different time. But such a german summer time did not exist at those days. The attack on the Dirschau bridge makes it possible, that Ju87B flew at night, but 3 planes are something else than around 60 planes.

BTW, there is no single evidence for neither a terror bombing nor for 1200 or 1300 victims, as well do I have my doubt, that the city center was 90% destroyed by the bombing.
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Red means destroyed. The Plac Legionow is the center. Yellow is not destroyed. If you chose special areas, you can get 90%, even 100%, but only if you ignore undestroyed areas. At least one of the red areas where even undestroyed, when the german ground forces arrived.
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more exactly sorry about earlier germany said or referenced that they were going to cause ww2 cause of spies after pearl harbor bombing
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Old November 14th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #20
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beorna;1256923]already at 4:33 3 Ju87B, starting from Elbing, attacked the bridge at Dirschau. So this was perhaps the first event of WWII.
Attacking the bridge in Dirschau? What for? Germany needed this bridge intact to move forces from East Prussia to Danzig and Polish Corridor. The bridge was blown up by Polish sapper in the face of surprising attack by German forces. Please revise your historical knowledge regarding this events.
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Dirsscha is marked here under Polish name Tczew.




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