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Old November 17th, 2012, 08:35 AM   #21

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You're not going to hit the same point twice, much less 3 times.
ok, not with rpg-7 but with a laser guided modern anti-tank i believe it's possible (took place in tajikistan against t-72 i think). and by point i mean one reactive plate area.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 08:50 AM   #22

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Tanks will always have a place on the battlefield, the key is, that battlefield
changes, but the tank will always be there as a key weapon, somehow.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 09:23 AM   #23

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I can't see tanks becoming outdated for a while tbh. They provide an armoured and mobile solution to static warfare, and a degreee of heavy firepower, making it a fleible tool in offence and defence, especially given the all terrain nature of tanks now.

There are weapons to counter it, like Rpg's and anti-tank guns, and methods to slow them down/immobilise them, like destroying the tracks, but not enough potency nor in enough quantity to render them obselete, imo.
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Tanks will always have a place on the battlefield, the key is, that battlefield
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As tank man I can't do anything else than to agree with you. perhaps the tank will change in its appearence, but he is necessary. There was once the idea, that infantrymen are outdated too and that one can win wars just with the air force. They all have their place in modern war-fare.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 11:57 AM   #25

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Western powers are underestimating the tank because they have got used to air superiority,take out air superiority and apaches taking potshots and tanks with trained crews and not conscripts like the arab armies are still very very good in land warfare,you see in russia[armata being developed],china,pakistan,india are all updating and building newer mbts in the thousands .That because they don't take air superiority for granted.
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I think tanks are now simply at a disadvantage in the weapons race but in no way obsolete at this time. They need to catch up, they need defensive systems and better armor.

A tank is mobile firepower capable of moving rapidly in the battle space and inflicting pain on the opponent with great effect. It will never be obsolete, merely outclassed from time to time.

What I wonder about is how tanks will deal with helicopters, these are the best tank killers.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 01:17 PM   #27

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The key factor to keep tanks on the scene is to give them a technology not to be targeted. In Russia they have developed a lot in this field and being difficult to be targeted tanks can avoid missile attacks.

This could give back to tanks "their place in history" [if we want to use a pompous sentence].

For example [as for what is public] there is the "Shtora" [curtain in Russian]

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I think tanks are now simply at a disadvantage in the weapons race but in no way obsolete at this time. They need to catch up, they need defensive systems and better armor.

A tank is mobile firepower capable of moving rapidly in the battle space and inflicting pain on the opponent with great effect. It will never be obsolete, merely outclassed from time to time.

What I wonder about is how tanks will deal with helicopters, these are the best tank killers.
i think A-10 thunderbolt is also a tank killer with its depleted uranium firing gatling. simplest but costly solution would be a small heat seeking missiles (or whatever they could lock on) launching tank.
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The key factor to keep tanks on the scene is to give them a technology not to be targeted. In Russia they have developed a lot in this field and being difficult to be targeted tanks can avoid missile attacks.

This could give back to tanks "their place in history" [if we want to use a pompous sentence].

For example [as for what is public] there is the "Shtora" [curtain in Russian]

Shtora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
i dont how effective "shtora" is but surely sounds impressive (almost too elusive ).
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i dont how effective "shtora" is but surely sounds impressive (almost too elusive ).
Tank Protection Systems. T-90 (English sub) - YouTube
Russians love their tanks ...

And it's out of doubt that military tech research in that country is running well fast [not only about tanks].
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