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Old November 24th, 2012, 12:36 PM   #11

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The Vatican's Swiss Guard?
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Old November 24th, 2012, 12:42 PM   #12

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Now that I think of it, given the power of the Irish Diaspora around the world if there was ever a serious attack or invasion of Ireland every military in the Western World would be lining up to defend the Emerald Isle. So in reality the Irish are pretty safe without a powerful military of their own.

Well it was the Americans who wanted to invade Ireland in WWII (if anyone on the Allied side actually did that is) not the British who were the 'calmer' head and proposed caution.

It is rumoured that Aitken in a mission to Roosevelt threatened to use the 'Diaspora' to undermine the USA's war effort if he didn't get his way and the USA pressure the UK on 'partition', Irish Americans of course would feel more loyal to Ireland than the USA.

Roosevelt simply stated if any such thing was said agian he would make it public and that would be the end of Ireland in the USA.

(I should add that this 'story' is disputed, that Aitkin and the Irish ambassador deny it or that Aitkin tried to bully the American President but it is generally agreed that the meeting were 'full and frank' and 'heated' at times)
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The Vatican's Swiss Guard?
Actually they are quite well armed.
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Makes one wonder why bother at all with a military?
the chances of a military invasion are practically zero considering the current political state of the world. the only stuff our armed forces seem to do is border security and the odd UN mission. i guess its better then no army at all yet it leaves much to be desired.
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Well, if you're referring to armed forces in general (as opposed to armies in particular), the Philippines Air Force and Navy are somewhat elderly.

The Philippines Navy's three main surface combatants are two refurbished US Coastguard Hamilton class frgates, originally launched in 1967 and 1968, and former USN Cannon class destroyer-escort, launched in 1943. It also operates several corvettes launched between 1943-1948.

The Air Force's equipment is designed primarily for COIN operations and as such, includes just under 40 Aermacchi SF-260 propeller driven trainer/light attack aircraft, Vietnam War era OV-10 Broncos and 6 Marchetti S-211 jet trainers/light attack aircraft. It no longer operates any air superiority fighters since the retirement of its fleet of F-5s.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 01:19 PM   #16

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A well armed and extremely well trained and devoted force.

The north Korean army! They actually mostly use ww2 and Korean war era weapons.

But hey, a bullet of a brown Bess can kill a man to.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 01:59 PM   #17

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I Personally think that bad equipped armed forces are not so rare to find(most Central African and South American countries are not exactly renowned for their military technology...the gap with "advanced" armies is especially evident when we take a look at expensive things like missile defense systems, top notch jet fighters and attack helicopters)

On top of my head:
The Cuban armed forces declined significantly after the end of the Col War in both quantity and quality they are still armed with Soviet surplus from the 60s-70s
The armed forces of Haiti are probably one of the illest equipped, since they totally lack heavy materiel(the Caribbean country only depends on a couple of paramilitary units from the National Police)


How about the Mongolian Navy?
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Old November 24th, 2012, 02:13 PM   #18
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How about the Mongolian Navy?
There were just "defeated" bacause of a big storm
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the Revolutionary Army??? the confederates?
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The Spanish militias of 1936 had no uniform, no training, no machine guns, no artillery and mostly rifles from around 1900.
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