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December 2nd, 2012, 01:43 AM
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#1 | | Historian ¤ Member of the Year ¤
Joined: Sep 2011 From: UK Posts: 14,612 | Pointless Battles
What examples are there in history where a battle had no affect on the outcome of a war?
In other words, battles that had no impact and were a waste of time and human life, because whether the battle happened or not, it had no relevance on the main war at hand and it's failure or success.
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December 2nd, 2012, 02:06 AM
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#2 | | King of the Seas!
Joined: Nov 2010 From: Border of GA and AL Posts: 7,889 |
I think the Gallipoli Campaign had no discernible impact on World War I beyond wasting the lives of young men.
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December 2nd, 2012, 02:10 AM
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#3 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Jun 2012 From: USA Posts: 4,015 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisieis What examples are there in history where a battle had no affect on the outcome of a war?
In other words, battles that had no impact and were a waste of time and human life, because whether the battle happened or not, it had no relevance on the main war at hand and it's failure or success. | The Battle of New Orleans comes to mind. The soldiers involved did not know that a peace treaty had already been signed. The battle is still quite famous though, and Andrew Jackson became a major force in American politics because of his stature as the general that won the battle.
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December 2nd, 2012, 03:12 AM
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#4 | | Archivist
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 217 |
I would say the vast majority of battles qualify
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December 2nd, 2012, 04:41 AM
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#5 | | Scholar
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 719 |
Pretty much the entire german soviet northern front from 1941-1944.
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December 2nd, 2012, 04:45 AM
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#6 | | Historian
Joined: Oct 2012 From: Between a rock and a hard place Posts: 1,547 |
Not so much of a battle per se, but all attacks on the morning of 11th November 1918. What stupidity, what waste. Not just stupid but bordering on criminality IMHO.
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December 2nd, 2012, 05:23 AM
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#7 | | Making Dennis Leary Proud
Joined: Jul 2010 From: Georgia, USA Posts: 5,226 | Quote:
Originally Posted by funakison Not so much of a battle per se, but all attacks on the morning of 11th November 1918. What stupidity, what waste. Not just stupid but bordering on criminality IMHO. | Agreed. I've stated my less than positive views on this in other threads. No need to repeat them here. Over time, the actions of that day have been "archived". You don't see it come up in any public relations efforts by the army, and it is very rarely mentioned in American documentaries of WWI. There is an independent production that aired on HC some years back about the American actions that was quite informative, but I've not seen it repeated.
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December 2nd, 2012, 08:04 AM
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#8 | | The great fool
Joined: Jun 2012 From: Hippy town U.S.A.! Posts: 3,434 |
Every single battle that was ever fought. If I had to choose however, I'd say Carrhae
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December 2nd, 2012, 09:07 AM
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#9 | | Scholar
Joined: Mar 2012 From: New Hampshire Posts: 987 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Apachewarlord Every single battle that was ever fought. If I had to choose however, I'd say Carrhae | Eh? The Battle of Carrhae decisively ended a Roman invasion of the Parthian Empire. So I'd say the battle served a purpose. It might have seemed pointless and in vain from a Roman view, but to assign the Roman view as the only one of worth would be kind of Eurocentric, wouldn't it?
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December 2nd, 2012, 10:03 AM
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Joined: Dec 2010 From: The Netherlands Posts: 5,170 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Qymaen I think the Gallipoli Campaign had no discernible impact on World War I beyond wasting the lives of young men. | It did have a certain effect on the Caucasus campaign. Quote:
Originally Posted by Hresvelgr Eh? The Battle of Carrhae decisively ended a Roman invasion of the Parthian Empire. So I'd say the battle served a purpose. It might have seemed pointless and in vain from a Roman view, but to assign the Roman view as the only one of worth would be kind of Eurocentric, wouldn't it? | Only one of the many invasions.
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