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Old December 14th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #61

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Thank you Mangekyou for your kind thoughts. Still weak and have off days but that's something I have to accept.As might be obvious, I have a great interest in the Armada. In my more active days (sigh) I had many interests and one was I was a keen yachtsman. However, as you rightly point out, this is speculation on the assumption that the Spaniards landed. So the obvious question is where? The terrain of the landing site would be critical.They would need to be in a bay with easy access off the beach as a port would be unlikely to be available. Certainly they could not have sailed up a river.
Again we are in speculation so I must gloss over the fact that the English would have easy points of access under scrutiny. What provision was made to ferry men and heavy equipment to land? They might, by some miracle, establish a small bridgehead but for how long?
Would love to examine the Armada in more detail but that might lay me open to the charge of derailing the thread.
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Thank you Mangekyou for your kind thoughts. Still weak and have off days but that's something I have to accept.As might be obvious, I have a great interest in the Armada. In my more active days (sigh) I had many interests and one was I was a keen yachtsman. However, as you rightly point out, this is speculation on the assumption that the Spaniards landed. So the obvious question is where? The terrain of the landing site would be critical.They would need to be in a bay with easy access off the beach as a port would be unlikely to be available. Certainly they could not have sailed up a river.
Again we are in speculation so I must gloss over the fact that the English would have easy points of access under scrutiny. What provision was made to ferry men and heavy equipment to land? They might, by some miracle, establish a small bridgehead but for how long?
Would love to examine the Armada in more detail but that might lay me open to the charge of derailing the thread.
Lets examine the Armada....another thread it is!
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Old December 14th, 2012, 06:52 PM   #63

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Happy to do so. Perhaps you would kick start it.
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Happy to do so. Perhaps you would kick start it.
OK. It is late here, 11:00 PM. I will start in this military history forum tomorrow.

Suggest we keep to military matters.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #65
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As for what % was Catholic, it is impossible to answer because most people didn't care. They went to their local church and the service was in English, the priest was married, and they removed a little of the decoration. So what? Most of the population were fine with being Catholic, but went along with the changes. There were Puritans and Papists, but they bpth small were the minorities. However, if Mary Tudor had a Catholic successor, who continued burning "heretics", England probably would have been Catholic.

Think the whole invasion thing would have been difficult to pull off. Sending the Armada to Ireland would have been a better plan. In Ireland they would have support for both nationistic and religious reasons. It might be easy to get control of Ireland and hard for the English to dislodge them.

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Thank you Mangekyou for your kind thoughts. Still weak and have off days but that's something I have to accept.As might be obvious, I have a great interest in the Armada. In my more active days (sigh) I had many interests and one was I was a keen yachtsman. However, as you rightly point out, this is speculation on the assumption that the Spaniards landed. So the obvious question is where? The terrain of the landing site would be critical.They would need to be in a bay with easy access off the beach as a port would be unlikely to be available. Certainly they could not have sailed up a river.
Again we are in speculation so I must gloss over the fact that the English would have easy points of access under scrutiny. What provision was made to ferry men and heavy equipment to land? They might, by some miracle, establish a small bridgehead but for how long?
Would love to examine the Armada in more detail but that might lay me open to the charge of derailing the thread.
You're very welcome, my friend

Those are some valid points you make.

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Im up for it.
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