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Old November 7th, 2013, 03:43 PM   #1
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Armies that went missing throughout history?


I'm researching for a personal project so I decided to come here and ask some of the historical experts. What are some armies that went missing throughout history? The 9th Legion is a good example but I don't want to use them. Are there any others whose disappearances aren't accounted for?
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Old November 7th, 2013, 04:09 PM   #2
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The Russians claim that one of the Polish armies was lost in swamps and forest during Polish invasion of Russia.

Russian paesant Ivan Susanin was taken by Poles as a guide but instead showing them the right way he dragged the whole unit into forest and swamps where the Polish troops perished. Ivan Susanin became one of the greatest Russian national heroes for it. Russians were building his monuments, painting him and even made an opera about this event.

However we in Poland dont know anything about the unit we have lost and all this might be just a Russian invention. Maybe it was just a small unit but Russian legend changed it into myth about great army.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Susanin"]Ivan Susanin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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The Lost Army of Cambyses. Supposedly a Persian army of 50,000 men disappeared w/o a trace in a sand storm. Maybe just a legend.
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Interesting thread, there's probably been plenty of naval ships lost in storms but I can't think of entire armies. Army units are probably a better bet.

In Vietnam one of the hueys from the First Air Cavalry disappeared with a week's worth of C rations.
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Find out what really happened to the 121st Infantry regiment, part of the Japanese 54th Division, on Ramree Island Burma. Did Crocodiles really eat them all????


Or who's army is it sitting peacefully at the bottom of lake [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roopkund"]Roopkund [/ame]in the Himalayas and were they really hailed to death???
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The Legio IX Hispana is not a good example.
It did not mysteriously disappear, as there are several traces of it still existing after it's supposed mysterious disappearance.

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The Russians claim that one of the Polish armies was lost in swamps and forest during Polish invasion of Russia.

Russian paesant Ivan Susanin was taken by Poles as a guide but instead showing them the right way he dragged the whole unit into forest and swamps where the Polish troops perished. Ivan Susanin became one of the greatest Russian national heroes for it. Russians were building his monuments, painting him and even made an opera about this event.

However we in Poland dont know anything about the unit we have lost and all this might be just a Russian invention. Maybe it was just a small unit but Russian legend changed it into myth about great army.

Ivan Susanin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Army?
I'd recommend you to read the story once again.
According to the legend that was one detachment.
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The Legio IX Hispana is not a good example.
It did not mysteriously disappear, as there are several traces of it still existing after it's supposed mysterious disappearance.
One of my favourite novels (The Eagle of the Ninth by Rosemary Sutcliffe) but yes I did a bit of background reading a few months ago and found the same claims, that the Legion had simply been transferred elsewhere.

The story isn't done and dusted though and people are still debating it. Couple of articles here -

BBC News - The Roman Ninth Legion's mysterious loss

Diggings: The Mystery of the Ninth Legion

An interesting titbit about the buried Eagle that features in the novel and film ... there was a documentary some time back in which an archaeologist said that the Eagle was most likely one which would have been mounted on the front of a civic building and not not a military one at all. She was basing that on the form of the feet I think ... I forget the exact reasoning, I'll have to see if I can find it.
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There is similar legend about scythian hero Shirak. He led troops of Darius deep into the desert where they finaly died from thirst
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The Lost Army of Cambyses. Supposedly a Persian army of 50,000 men disappeared w/o a trace in a sand storm. Maybe just a legend.
Vanished Persian Army Said Found in Desert : Discovery News
It might not be just a legend
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