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Old July 18th, 2014, 09:02 AM   #41

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First of all, amazing pics - kudos to you for enriching our views to make the whole era come alive.
Thank you , photos do have a way of bringing history to life, don't they. I love looking at old photos in general, Irishcrusader's WW2 thread is always fascinating to follow. The threat topic is a special interest. I'll try to post some more in a fortnight.

I'll also get back to you about Norman Davies.
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Old July 18th, 2014, 09:42 AM   #42

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One of my favourites comedies is about a group of theater actors in Warsaw during the German occupation:



To Be or Not to Be (1942 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

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Avoid the Mel Brooks remake, its not even half as funny.

Lubitsch has a vicious sense of humour that fits the circumstances perfectly.

Colonel Erhardt "Oh, yes I saw him in 'Hamlet' once. What he did to Shakespeare we are doing now to Poland."
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Old July 18th, 2014, 10:58 AM   #43

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Good to hear. I thought nobody watched "A Bridge too Far" nowadays.
You kiddin' ?
I come back to that book at least every 2nd year. And I think I still have somewhere the maps I magnified ( hand-made, pencil and pen !) in my teen-age-rainy-holiday-days.

I was 16 when I found in it the phrase :"Well, we'll cross that bridge when we'll get to it !", a phrase that became one of the two guiding lines I have in life.
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Old July 18th, 2014, 12:29 PM   #44

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Avoid the Mel Brooks remake, its not even half as funny.

Lubitsch has a vicious sense of humour that fits the circumstances perfectly.

Colonel Erhardt "Oh, yes I saw him in 'Hamlet' once. What he did to Shakespeare we are doing now to Poland."
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One of my favourites comedies is about a group of theater actors in Warsaw during the German occupation:

To Be or Not to Be (1942 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

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Do you know I've never even heard of this movie? It seems to be a well known one. I looked up the Lubisch production on Polish websites after seeing your posts, they say it's totally detached from the realities of German occupation of Poland but very funny and well done.

Black humour was an important element of Polish life during German/Soviet occupation, helped people survive.

Some highlights:

In Operation Góral (Akcja Góral) the Home Army (Armia Krajowa, or "AK"), incepted over a million US dollars worth of currency being transported by Nazi German authorities on 12 August 1943.

It was carried out near the Warsaw Castle Square by the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kedyw"]Kedyw[/ame] unit, "Motor", which seized a transport car carrying the money. It was one of the best organized actions of European underground during German occupation, and it took only two minutes.


The name of the action comes from the "Góral", the popular name for the 500 złoty currency note (which were also known as "Młynarki")

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The Germans went beserk, offering a huge reward to a reliable witness who could name the culprits:

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An answer was sent ("I saw it all and wish to make a statement") signed Zygmunt W., Castle Square 1. When German agents arrived at the address given it took them a while to locate the Vasa chap on top of the column.

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The 1946 film "Zakazane Piosenki" (made just in time before the Stalinist cultural boot heel descended full scale) captures the wartime popular spirit.

This song was really sung in the streets of occupied Warsaw (there were several versions):



HATCHET AND HOE

Hatchet hoe and bottle of vodka
Bombs by night, by day it's lock-ups
Hatchet and hoe, electric light
When will German dogs take flight?

What to dream and what to do
Bastards make our life a zoo
Their Kultur prohibits not
Hunting people 'round the block.

Hatchet and hoe, here's good news,
Hitler and Duce loose their shoes
Hatchet and hoe, a rope and wire
Herr Housepainter's no more for hire.

Hatchet and hoe, a drink and saw
The dumb housepainter lost the war
Hatchet and hoe, saw and knife
He lost at last - now drink to life!

Heartlifting humour was part of Minor Sabotage, where teenage scouts routinely took their first steps in AK underground. Some original grafitti still remains in Warsaw:

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[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_sabotage"]Minor sabotage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

The penalty was far from minor. The first act of Minor Sabotage was performed at the end of September 1939 by a 24 year old university student Elżbieta Zahorska

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Germans caught her tearing off this propaganda poster:

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"England - your work!"

Witnesses describe Elżbieta laughed and sang on the way to execution ("it won't do to have the Fritz think we're afraid" she said). The folk song she chose is of the hangman's joke kind: "Old Maciek is Dead".



Before the squardon blew her brains out Elżbieta shouted "Noch ist Polen nicht verloren".

In the first days of occupation such gestures were still possible. Later on Germans made a rule of stuffing prisoners' mouths with plaster.

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Old July 18th, 2014, 04:49 PM   #45

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Thank you antonina. What a great thread!
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Antonina-How can you possiby claim that the story of the Poles contribution to orld War Two is ''little known'' when my initial post on this topic demonsrtated beyond and above any possible doubt that that was simply not true -particuarly in Scotland?
Maybe you are having a crisis of literacy at the moment?
I repeat- it is utter tosh to clam that the Polish contribution both in Scotland or the wider U.K. between 1939-45 is neglected/little known .or forgotten .
Only those who have never been to either Scotland or the U.K. would make such a silly claim.
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It is almost completely unknown in Canada, I can tell you that much, so maybe you should be not so quick in your accusations. In fact I bet 19/20 here would not be aware of free Polish units fighting for the Commonwealth at all.
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Antonina-How can you possiby claim that the story of the Poles contribution to orld War Two is ''little known'' when my initial post on this topic demonsrtated beyond and above any possible doubt that that was simply not true -particuarly in Scotland?
Maybe you are having a crisis of literacy at the moment?
I repeat- it is utter tosh to clam that the Polish contribution both in Scotland or the wider U.K. between 1939-45 is neglected/little known .or forgotten .
Only those who have never been to either Scotland or the U.K. would make such a silly claim.
I don't understand how not everyone in the world lives in the UK either.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 11:56 AM   #49
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'iT'S ALMOST UNKNOWN IN cANADA''-RUBBISH -One of canada's mosr famous royal canadian air force WINNERS ANDREW WINARSKI
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was of Polish/Canadian extraction and their is a school in Canada named after him.
Can adian histories of
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