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Old September 7th, 2014, 07:41 AM   #11
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The WWI German fleet that scuttled itself was salvaged, was that during WWII or prior?
Only a couple of them, the value of the metals crashed so the guy doing all the work barely broke even in the end.

Its still an incredible story with guys going down, sealing compartments, working in the wrecks underwater and pumping them out so they can be floated and stripped.

There was stil a healthy market in Scapa wrecks until recently, not counting precious metals they are made with high quality pre-atomic age steel so the were valuable for high quality scientific instruments.

Eclectica: Salvaging the German High Seas Fleet wrecks of Scapa Flow
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Since the first atomic tests in the 1940s all new steel is contaminated by the radioactivity that is present in the air and is drawn into the furnaces during production. When uncontaminated steel is needed for medical and scientific instruments it can only be obtained from metal produced before the first atomic test. So it is that small amounts of steel are occasionally salvaged from the Koenig to make instruments. Some of these instruments are used in the space program and part of a WWI German battleship has been to the moon.
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There was stil a healthy market in Scapa wrecks until recently, not counting precious metals they are made with high quality pre-atomic age steel so the were valuable for high quality scientific instruments.

Eclectica: Salvaging the German High Seas Fleet wrecks of Scapa Flow
And that is very very interesting...
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Some pretty amazing footage of the recovery of a number of heavy units of the Hochseeflotte.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzuxekGZWQM"]The Imperial German Navy Fleet Scapa Flow Suicide and Salvage. SMS Hindenburg U Boats etc. - YouTube[/ame]
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This says 1350 m:
WRECK WRAK EPAVE WRACK PECIO

The Yamato is at 340m.
Nuff said. They don't have the capabilities to raise those wrecks now, much less in the immediate aftermath of WWII.
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Nuff said. They don't have the capabilities to raise those wrecks now, much less in the immediate aftermath of WWII.
Yamato is certainly in pieces, so raising the ship is not possible. Pieces of hull or other wreckage, I suppose, but that is unlikely to be economical. Never mind the fact that Yamato is a war grave, and remains a symbol of sacrifice to Japan.

I'm not sure about Musashi, though the model linked previously is, I think, speculative. It shows the main gun turrets in place, but she rolled over as she sank, and that should have dumped the turrets, like Bismarck.
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In the US, the old reserve, aka"ghost" fleets dating from WW2 have been dismantled or are in the process of being dismantled. It is expensive and not cost effective. They have to be removed at great expense due to the environmental hazard they present.

Battleships, are not designed to be dismantled. They are made to stand up to the most extreme forces nature and man can be throw at them. The WW2 vessels are particularly hazardous, containing lead, zinc, barium, asbestos, oil, PCB's whose toxicity was not even fully known at the time. The US Maritime Administration published a 610 page report outlining what a hazard these WW2 ships pose.
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