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Old September 18th, 2014, 12:21 PM   #1

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Kasserine Complex: how the US military came to idolize the Wehrmacht


Interesting commentary on this development within the American military felt from its early encounters with the Germans in WWII and the impact it had on post-war developments.

The Kasserine Complex

Although the fact the American military relied on former Wehrmacht officers who fought on the Eastern Front for information on the Red Army is not too surprising.
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One should learn from others and trust in the own strength and abilities. A complex is never good.
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The Germans fought well and acquitted themselves honourably in combat against us during WWII so they earned our respect, not particularly surprising or disconcerting. It's only natural to respect an enemy who fights well and to hold an enemy who fights poorly in contempt; because of that we speak highly of people such as Cornwallis, Lee, and Rommel and there's nothing wrong with showing some grace in victory and acknowledging your valiant, if vanquished, foes.
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The Germans fought well and acquitted themselves honourably in combat against us during WWII so they earned our respect, not particularly surprising or disconcerting. It's only natural to respect an enemy who fights well and to hold an enemy who fights poorly in contempt; because of that we speak highly of people such as Cornwallis, Lee, and Rommel and there's nothing wrong with showing some grace in victory and acknowledging your valiant, if vanquished, foes.
Read about Gen Eisenhower and his feelings about the Germans. He didn't agree.
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Read about Gen Eisenhower and his feelings about the Germans. He didn't agree.
And you can find such feelings and comments about any of the examples I used. But a general respect has arisen for these figures within American culture and probably to an even greater extent within the officer class.
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The French are suffering from a similar complex. No wonder....
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Is this true for all 4 branches or just the Army?
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Is this true for all 4 branches or just the Army?
I'm not quite sure, I mostly see this in the Army. I'm not familiar with the US navy idolizing the Kriegsmarine much. If any foreign navy is idolized, it's the British navy. Although one thing to keep in mind here though is that the US army has a long history of idolizing the Prussian/German military. This dates to the time of the Franco-Prussian War. So for the US military to idolize the Wehrmacht is not too surprising in that long-term context.

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Is this true for all 4 branches or just the Army?
US Army still hero worships the German war machine, believing it way more efficient than it actually was.

The USMC worships itself, they don't care a fig for the Germans.
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The USMC worships itself, they don't care a fig for the Germans.
I thought the Marines did. Even the SS runes are used by some Marine units.
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