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Old November 3rd, 2014, 05:18 PM   #1
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Fall of Oberndorf spring 1945


Hi, I'm relatively new here. I've always been a big history buff. Just retired from 28 years of service in the army. Mixed reserve & active duty. Anyway, does any 1 here know anything about the capture of Oberndorf, Germany in the closing days of WWII? I recently came into possession of a beautiful, almost mint, Parrabellum P08 (Luger to Americans) whose 5th or 6th hand "story" (so taken with more than a pinch of salt, but not totally discounted either) is possibly related. I've tried to research it & everything I've read credits this to the French. While no doubt the French ended up with Oberndorf (strategically important because of the Mauser-Werke) I know I've heard somewhere before that it was initially seized & plundered by American GI's for a few days before turning it over to the French. When I was a young pup, I had the honor of serving & learning from many of these vets, so I may have heard that tale from some of them long, long ago. The physical, circumstantial, evidence on this PO8 supports that story IMO, though not totally conclusive. I would appreciate any help. Any Luger buffs or WWII buffs out there?

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Old November 5th, 2014, 10:07 AM   #2
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Very nice to see some interested in old military arms and nice to see someone interested in old Lugers!

As for the Oberndorf plant, it was, like most of the other arsenals, bombed by Allied bombers during the war. Now that I remember the only old German arsenal with most of its original buildings intact is the old Danzing arsenal in modern day Gdańsk. An acquaintance of mine visited the plant last month and got some good photos. If I remember correctly, a good part of the old factory is now veterinary hospital.
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Did find this site, where it says Mauser produced pistols for the French Army between June 1945 and March 1946, including 2560 PO8s.

The Artillery Luger - French Parabellum
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Very nice to see some interested in old military arms and nice to see someone interested in old Lugers!

As for the Oberndorf plant, it was, like most of the other arsenals, bombed by Allied bombers during the war. Now that I remember the only old German arsenal with most of its original buildings intact is the old Danzing arsenal in modern day Gdańsk. An acquaintance of mine visited the plant last month and got some good photos. If I remember correctly, a good part of the old factory is now veterinary hospital.
Thanks 4 the reply. I think u r right, it was bombed. But it was not completely destroyed. They produced P08 until 47 or 48 for the French. Sometime around 48 or so the French dynamited some more buildings & left. Some of it was still standing in the 60s & 70s when they resumed production of the P08 again.
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Did find this site, where it says Mauser produced pistols for the French Army between June 1945 and March 1946, including 2560 PO8s.

The Artillery Luger - French Parabellum
Wow thanks 4 the link. I knew they made PO8 for the French, but I didn't know they made artillery lugers. Those old artillery models r super nice. I'd luv to find 1 of the 30 cal models. They made a few, but not for the German army. It was originally procured 4 the artillery, but ended up seeing more use by motorcycle couriers & the strumtruppen with the 32 rd snaildrums.

If the "tale" on mine has any basis in fact it would confirm the part in the link about having old barrels in the white stored there. My PO8 is all military parts except the barrel.It is an old pre-war Crown over N part. The crown is 4 the Kaiser the N is for Nitro as in smokeless powder. It was polished out to commercial std probrably with Emory cloth on the lathe as it was turned at DWM. They left the band around the sight unpolished as this was a replacement part. (That section couldn't be polished on the lathe) . It would have been polished by hand in their repair dept. I've never seen another PO8 left in the rough here, but 44 & 45 P38 Barrels r the same but very little polish on the lathe at all. The Nazi's got rid off crown markings .This barrel was screwed into a Military proofed 1937 receiver & blued together after all the proofs & the single witness Mark is perfectly alugned. Odd.
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