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Old July 19th, 2015, 08:53 PM   #1

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Most easily avoidable Israeli failure in Israel's 1948-1949 War of Independence?


Since I myself was born in Israel and am currently a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, I am extremely curious about this--what exactly was the most easily avoidable Israeli militarily failure in Israel's 1948-1949 War of Independence?

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Old July 20th, 2015, 02:58 AM   #2

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Banging their heads against a wall at Latrun, and getting suckered into a killing sack in Jerusalem.
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Old July 21st, 2015, 05:12 PM   #3

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Banging their heads against a wall at Latrun,
So Israel should have avoided attacking Latrun at all?

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and getting suckered into a killing sack in Jerusalem.
Can you please elaborate on this part?
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Old July 21st, 2015, 09:49 PM   #4

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Also, exactly how successful do you think that Israel could have been in its 1948-1949 War of Independence, starman?
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So Israel should have avoided attacking Latrun at all?
Either that or wait until they were better prepared with tanks or what not.

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Can you please elaborate on this part?
If I remember an account correctly, the Jordanians allowed the Israelis to infiltrate a certain place--courtyard?--in Jerusalem, which became a killing sack.
How successful might Israel have been? Not much more successful against Egypt since it did have Cairo's forces on the run in Sinai only to be stopped by Britain, concerned about the canal.
I suppose the forces squandered at Latrun and Jerusalem could've taken territory elsewhere in the west bank.
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Either that or wait until they were better prepared with tanks or what not.
How much time would it have taken Israel to be better prepared for this, though?

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If I remember an account correctly, the Jordanians allowed the Israelis to infiltrate a certain place--courtyard?--in Jerusalem, which became a killing sack.
So Israel should have avoided infiltrating this courtyard or whatever?

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How successful might Israel have been? Not much more successful against Egypt since it did have Cairo's forces on the run in Sinai only to be stopped by Britain, concerned about the canal.
Do you think that Israel could have realistically conquered the Gaza Strip from Egypt, though?

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I suppose the forces squandered at Latrun and Jerusalem could've taken territory elsewhere in the west bank.
Any ideas as to whether exactly in the West Bank Israel could have conquered additional territories, though? Also, do you think that Israel could have conquered East Jerusalem from Jordan back in 1948-1949?

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Also, did Israel ever try telling Britain that it would be willing to withdraw from the Sinai Peninsula after it conquers the Gaza Strip from Egypt? After all, Israel should have at least tried to do this before it gave up on conquering the Gaza Strip in 1948-1949.
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In addition, for reference:

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Also, does anyone else here want to respond to this question of mine?
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The early battle for Jerusalem was conducted with an approximate general plan. Overall, after that Jordanians reduced the supplies to Jewish units in the area, the Jewish commands thought to military supplies [airdropping them in the areas where Jews were active], but they didn't think to water and food [!?! Even Jewish warriors need to eat and drink, you know ...]. Not to underline that also medicines were rare in those air supplies.

With this add [like I underlined in a different thread] that the general training of fighting Jews wasn't exceptional. See the comments of US colonel Marcus [an American Jew who went to ME just for the Liberation war, becoming the "Aluf" just of Jerusalem front], he had serious troubles in leading those troops.

After the failures of the operation to open a way to Jerusalem [practically under siege], he built the Burma road to Jerusalem.

If Marcus arrived before in ME, he would have certainly organized a better training for the troops, assured that the Jewish forces in Jerusalem would have had better and continuous supplies [water and food included!] and sure he would have managed to keep a way opened, preventing the moves of the Jordanians.
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