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Any serious post-WWII pro-slavery movements in the west?
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SoCal
Maybe among some ultra-extreme Muslim fundamentalists?
Also, maybe there's something here:
en.wikipedia.org
Also, maybe there's something here:
Mormonism and slavery - Wikipedia
Yes.
1. Chinese Communist party
2. Western corporate leaders who secretly involved in human trafficking
1. Chinese Communist party
2. Western corporate leaders who secretly involved in human trafficking
Joined Apr 2018
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India
As mentioned in my thread which I can bump up the Portuguese had a form of slavery in Angola until 1961. Possibly the same in post WWII Belgian Congo. The Soviet Union used German and Italian POWs in forced labor until 1955 although many were ransomed back on prior years..
Leftyhunter
There is the ... trade in the present day US where Pimps brutalize prostitutes take all their money and law enforcement does almost nothing about it.
Leftyhunter
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Fryslân, Netherlands
My great grand father was also kept as a prisoner of war, working, was released only a year after the war ended but he was taken prisoner in North Africa by the British. Neither makes them supporters of slavery, only beneficiaries of forced labour, which does not yet equal slavery which, in turn, does not equal support for slavery.
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Fryslân, Netherlands
I was referring to the Western Allies who used forced labor well past WWII’s end. Nor dis your response a explain away the gap between doing something and supporting a related phenomenon principally.
I must admit that I interpreted "pro-slavery movement" as referring to an attempt to make slavery-i.e., the ownership of one human being by another-lawful.
That is the logical interpretaion of "pro slavery movement". No doubt the pro slavery movement in "western" societies is about as strong as the pro witchcraft trials movement and the pro cannibalism movement, etc.
Slavery isn't legal in any country but it never ended and is widely toleraed even in the West.
Leftyhunter
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Kazakhstan
Not slaves as prisoners in the US do get released. I don't know what type of prisoners but they appear to be county jail prisoners picking up trash. Most county jails have misemenor prisoners who can serve a sentence up to one year but most misdemeanor prisoners serve far less time. In general one day of work results in one to three days off a sentence depending on the state or county policy.
Yes felons can serve time in a county jail especially in California.
German and Italian POWs post WWII were slaves because the war was long over and they were often subject to hard labor.
Prison labor is legal in the US per the Thirteenth Amendment of the US Constitution.
Now it is true slavery didn't end in the US Post ACW. In the American South many young African Americans were arrested on false charges and or vagrancy ( which is now illegal per the US Supreme Court) and forced to work as prison labor . The convicts were leaded to private companies.
The Documentary" The Thirteenth" goes into detail about this.
Post ACW former Lt. General Nathan Bedford Forrest tried to make money leasing convicts but he failed vs former Confederate Governor of Georgia Joe Brown did make money leasing convicts.
By the 1960s the chain Gangs or convict leasing died out.
Two very good movies that are based on convict leasing are "I was a prisoner on a Gerorgia chain gang" 1932 staring Paul Muni and the classic 1967 film" Cool Hand Luke" staring Paul Newman ,Richard Stiger and George Kennedy
Leftyhunter
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Still it is forced labor.
German and Italy PoWs were sentenced to rebuild what they destroyed in the Soviet Union. Not a worse sentence for murdering millions of civilians.
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I think justifying slavery, at least chattel slavery, by the time the 19th century ended became nearly impossible because it had become repulsive to the established international morality which was largely descended from the enlightenment a century previous, at least in the west. The Second World War seems to have been the final major event & milestone for constructing our modern fundamental principles of human rights due to the tragedies of the war, so justifying slavery by mid-century seems nearly impossible in my view. Of course our species seems to have always seeked out ways to exploit & abuse others in even the subtlest ways they can possibly envision.
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Southeast Asia
Of all the cruelties & atrocities throughout history, abuses & punishments & all, despite how much I’ve studied already, I still struggle to comprehend how slavery, especially chattel slavery, was justified throughout history, especially as an established legal & cultural institution, as well as how it’s currently maintained of course. At least with severe punishments there’s that underlying justification that the condemned theoretically put it on themselves, & with conquered people there seems to have been a general theoretical assumption that the displaced are free to go elsewhere or that their suffering will be divinely rewarded, but enslaving innocent people, people who’s ability communicate & reason is similar if not even identical to that of your peers, acquaintances as well as your own, in harsh conditions, usually for life, barely merits even the weakest arguments, in my opinion.
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