Matriarchal society

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Can someone know example of matriarchal society?
I read wiki page but I guess someone know one example more.

For instance, I know that Liburni(Illyrian tribe) were matriarchal society.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Both the Apache and Navajo nations are Athabaskan speakers, and both are matriarchal societies. That wasn't uncommon for many of the native American tribes across North America. Men might rule in martial pursuits and the hunt, but women ruled the wikiup. Women's lives were harsh and hard, but their opinions and power couldn't be wholly ignored by the tribe. When an Apache marries, he moves into his wife's village and his mother-in-law's must be provided for and her wishes followed.

In the Jewish faith, one's lineage is also traced back through the mother's line rather than the paternal. Gender roles, responsibilities, and expectations often mitigate against the extremes of Parochial/Matriarchal systems. Muslim women, I understand, are virtual slaves of the men, but within the family and household, it is they who rule ... in a gentle way, of course.
 
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Thats nice.

What do you mean by Muslim women. I know Sunni Muslim family and in their house, head of the house is man.
 
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Medieval Gaelic (Irish and Highland Scots) high culture was dominated by women at a grass-roots level, as it was the wives of olluna - 'the learned class' of musicians and scholars - who ran the 'lodger-houses' where they selected trainees, and also some of the 'houses of education' where the actual training was done. It was very much a background role, but an important one: matriarchal circuitry in a patriarchal computer.

The same description - matriarchal circuitry, patriarchal computer - could apply to much of Gaelic society, actually, and far more arguably much of feudal western Europe's noble culture where women were frequently the managers of their husband's estates and business interests, and also in charge of heirs' education.
 
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I come from a matriarchal and matrilineal community of southern India :)
 
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Ah, the trouble with generalizations is that they are inevitably shot-through with exceptions. However, there is a great deal of difference between the nominal "head of the household", and who really wields the power. In some cases, it is a minor child. In others, it is the oldest person in the tribe. Things are rarely as simple and easy to understand as we would like.
 
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Both the Apache and Navajo nations are Athabaskan speakers, and both are matriarchal societies. That wasn't uncommon for many of the native American tribes across North America. Men might rule in martial pursuits and the hunt, but women ruled the wikiup. Women's lives were harsh and hard, but their opinions and power couldn't be wholly ignored by the tribe. When an Apache marries, he moves into his wife's village and his mother-in-law's must be provided for and her wishes followed.

In the Jewish faith, one's lineage is also traced back through the mother's line rather than the paternal. Gender roles, responsibilities, and expectations often mitigate against the extremes of Parochial/Matriarchal systems. Muslim women, I understand, are virtual slaves of the men, but within the family and household, it is they who rule ... in a gentle way, of course.
Islam is a patriarchal society but don't exaggerate to the the extent that they were virtually slaves. Islamic women did have the right to possess property separate from their husband in a time Victorian era British women didn't.
 
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There really has never been a matriarchal society. There have been matrilineal societies, but that's different and most people confuse the two.
 
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Weren't the Minoans a matriarchal society? Been decades since I read anything on that subject - I might be confusing them with some other bronze age culture.
 
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Weren't the Minoans a matriarchal society? Been decades since I read anything on that subject - I might be confusing them with some other bronze age culture.
No it is the Minoans however though possessing a higher status of women people can not assume that it was ultimately matriarchal itself.
 
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One gives women a dominant role in how the society operates, the other traces lineage through the female line. They are indeed different. However, de facto v. nominal dominance is, I believe, much more common than not. The women let us think we are in charge, but don't dare cross them.
 
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Please explain.
Most anthropologists hold that there are no known societies that are unambiguously matriarchal.[53][54][55] According to J. M. Adovasio, Olga Soffer, and Jake Page, no true matriarchy is known actually to have existed.[50] Anthropologist Joan Bamberger argued that the historical record contains no primary sources on any society in which women dominated.[56] Anthropologist Donald Brown's list of human cultural universals (viz., features shared by nearly all current human societies) includes men being the "dominant element" in public political affairs,[57]

Matriarchy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Little introduction.
 
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There have been a few cultures in which the genders seem to have been at least nominally "equal". Consider the Scythians and Sarmatians, and the pre-Christian Celtic peoples. The Kingdom of Dahomey may possibly stand as an African example.

At least in the domestic setting, though, I think all human cultures are matriarchal ;)
 
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Liburnian women were allow to sleep to who ever they choose even married.
Germanic women kill their men if he fled from battle field.

Whats that?

To me its pure domination
'Matriarchy' means political control. Neither Liburnian nor Germanic women had that.

and the pre-Christian Celtic peoples
Even post-Christianisation, women fared better in Celtic societies than in Germanic or feudal ones. The political structure being - theoretically - as patriarchal as it was possible to get hides substantial female involvement, not as heiresses or property transfer mechanisms but actors in their own right. Noblewomen were fluent in multiple languages, literate, and afforded formal education and considerable freedom of speech. Some of them became great scholars or war-leaders, though they never set foot on a battlefield. They could also own their own property during marriage, bring a divorce, and kept their original family identity.
 
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'Matriarchy' means political control. Neither Liburnian nor Germanic women had that.

Not sure I have to check it but as I remember Liburnian women were tropa de elite! They were in charge.
 
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There have been a few cultures in which the genders seem to have been at least nominally "equal". Consider the Scythians and Sarmatians, and the pre-Christian Celtic peoples. The Kingdom of Dahomey may possibly stand as an African example.

At least in the domestic setting, though, I think all human cultures are matriarchal ;)

Some truth there!:lol:
I know one joke.
Man say to his friend: "You know, in my house, my word is last word! Yes hunny!

Scythians are interesting. Their priests were dressed as women.
Also stories that Amazons molested them and created Sarmatians.
 
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Also its hard to believe that men were in charge while women could go around and sleep with other people or that could took your life.

You have to agree its domination. And as I understand domination, one who is dominant is in charge while slave listen!
 
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