Temple Culture

In the Bible we see mention of Nephilim, called “Children of Fallen Angels and Humans”, which are “The Heroes of Old and Warriors of Renown”. We then see clearly, in the Greek text, in the War between Zeus and the Giants, that they are Humans, in Phlegrae, Macedonia, in Greece. If we look to Northern Macedonia, we see Neolithic structures, and a Neolithic Society, this is becoming known as “Temple Culture”. These Cultures in Macedonia seemed simple, seemed to have a central building that was a place of Worship, and Venus Statuettes. The Primary Goddess is the Mother Goddess, and Mothers are worshiped, this is Neolithic times. There is pottery, and there are various stone structures both Human made, as well as a field of stones that kind of resemble a stone person shape with a kind of head on top, and it is said that these natural stone phenomenon were an Army that was frozen in stone.

The Neolithic Period is called “The New Stone Age”, it ended in 1990 B.C. and began about 10,000 B.C. so this is a period of time that we generally consider to be of about the same level of technological advancement as Native Americans, and we can then safely assume that Native American culture is something like a snapshot into the types of abilities these people would have, looking at for example the Aztec Empire as an example of a highly advanced New Stone Age Civilization. So there was a New Stone Age Society, which has a settlement in Macedonia. And if we then look to what the Greeks themselves had to say about these people that are in the far North East of Greece, we see that they say that these are the Phaiakians, these are a group of people considered to be Hedonists, or people who strive for Pleasure, and Happiness, and Gratification in various ways, maybe seen as decadent by some including the Greeks. They were said to have boats that were far more advanced than the Greeks, and they supposedly have no rudders and their boats themselves know where everything is and take the Phaiakians where they want to go with a mere thought.

If we then look deeper into the Phaiakians, we can see that they are likely associated with Malta. Malta is a Civilization that is also part of this Temple Culture Phenomenon, many modern Scholars seem to be Biasly Judging the Temple Culture, stating that it was less of a Temple and more of an everything, as in it was a place where people would bring Animals they caught and raised, and things they made, or Plants they had, and they Celebrated Births, and Holidays, etc. This seems bias because the fact that Christians have chosen Greek and Roman Government Structures as Temples, then ruled over their States with Basilicas, etc, in that way; is not a more Pure or more Religious way of worshiping, than to have your Ancient Traditions being retained in a Temple. And in fact if we look at History, it seems that the Temple Culture began first, and that they then taught the others how to be Kings and Queens, creating Mystery Schools that were not like Modern Freemasonry, and Jesuits, in that they see themselves as joining an Elite group of established individuals, but these groups were there to simply educate the people.

If we see as the Temple Culture, the Giants of Greek Mythology, the Nephilim of Jewish Mythology, as Civilizing the New Stone Age, as the Masters of Boats, and Masonry, and Weaving, and Domestication of Animals, we can see that the Temple Culture was actually there like a parent, watching over these new Kingdoms and Fraternities being formed. They can be seen as associated with the Oracles at Delphi, and Delos Island before the Greeks converted it. We can see these people as the Inhabitants of Malta, and we can see them as the people who inhabited Athens, when it was connected to Sais, Egypt, before the events that occurred which relate to Zeus birthing Athena from his head, Hera becoming angry and releasing Typhon, something clearly happened there, and this is further evidenced in the weaving competition proposed to Athena, in which Arachne weaves a scene showing Zeus’ rapes. This and the Giants in Macedonia are Evidence of a group of people that were there before what we call the Greeks. And we can see the 600 B.C. Event on the Island of Delos, where all Dead Bodies are removed from the ground and no one is allowed to ever again give birth or die there, as an example of the Greeks ability to erase History, which they clearly able to identify and eliminate so that we would not have it today.


If we look at Dolmen Culture we can see that they exist from the Islands West of Italy, to Spain, Portugal, near France, Amsterdam and Germany, to Ireland and the famous Stone Henge in the U.K., and on to the Scandinavian Balkan area. And no one knows how they got there.

If we now look at the Temple Culture, which is Identified by the Greeks as the Phaiakians, and Greek Myth ties in several ways to Italy and Sicily, which then are Carthaginian Colonies, we can see that these people were in Italy. They were in Greece, but by the time they came to these places they were a different Culture, by the time the Greeks are talking about Giants they are out of the Neolithic Period.

For a clear image of this, we can look to Zeus, who himself comes from Malta, he is said to be a Child of Chronos, who then wants to eat him so he can not be overthrown and Rhea gives Chronos a Stone wrapped in Swaddling Cloth, Chronos eats the stone and then Zeus is raised by Bees in a Cave in Malta. So we see Zeus himself is associated with the Maltese sect of New Stone Age Temple Culture, and then by the time the Greeks are talking about these people to their North called Giants, they are having Zeus kill them and bury them under Volcanoes in Italy.

So these people are a distinct group of people, who existed as a Father type force above the Greeks and Jews, called Zeus by the Greeks, and Giants by the Greeks, and Nephilim by the Jews. We then see Metal Working as the end and result of the War between Zeus and Typhon, as if “and the Moral of the story is” that the Greeks then got Metalworking from Pirates who spoke a language the Greeks could not understand, and then Zeus kills Typhon. So just as we can see the New Stone Age shift to the Bronze Age, we see the Temple Culture become the Fathers of Metal Working, and the Italians being far more in tune with these cultures than the Greeks, but the Greeks having the Monopoly on Literature.

So if we then look back to the New Stone Age, we see Dolmens, and if we look at where the Dolmens are, they are in the places that are Considered Punic. Phoenicians traded tin as far as Britain, and the Punic Roman Emperors are Notorious for paying attention to the Places we see Dolmens.

A Dolmen is a Structure which contains some Rocks which stand upwards, sometimes like Walls, and in kind of a home structure, sometimes in Cylindrical shapes. Then there is a Massive Stone placed on top, a Dolmen is almost defined by the fact that there is a Massive stone on Top, usually a fairly flat stone, that has no explaination as to how it got there. Dolmen are mysterious because no one knows how the Rocks got there, or how the heavy stone got on top. And we can see that they are in the same Regions that Hannibal and his Father, and Brother in Law, were Civilizing. The Punics were the Society before Rome that would go around Civilizing people, so we can see that they are likely a continuation of the Nephilim culture of old. We can see that Hannibal is not only able to round up Celt Iberians and others (and now we see Celts in Ireland), he was able to Defect the people of Italy.

If we then look Cats. We are not really sure where Cats were domesticated, this in itself is a mystery. But we can in fact see that Cats are all over Egypt, they are all over Africa, and then they are all over the World. If you want to catch a Large Cat, which many of them did and Leopard Skins were considered to be for High Priests in Egypt, you would use something as Bait to catch cats, some kind of Catnip type substance. If we further look at the actions of Cats, we can see that Punics, Carthaginians, had Hemp, Marijuana, from India. The Carthaginians are fairly well established at this point to have regular contact with India, or to have Forefathers at some point that came from or combined with a Culture from India. This Marijuana and Hemp would have likely been seen as similar in effect on Humans as the Catnip or other substance on the Cat, as we make the same comparisons today.

We can see that the Gall Fruit is Native to North Africa, in the exact region of Carthage, and us used in Roman Ink. So we can see Carthage as like a Rosetta Stone.

In Greek Myth, we see Hercules is a Hero that fights the Giants, without Hercules there would be no defeat of the Giants, he is their downfall. But if we look at Carthage, and particularly New Carthage, in Portugal and Spain under Carthage, we can see that Hannibal worships Hercules and Hera, and Eshmun. Eshmun is a form of Imphotep, and a Healing God, meaning Hannibal was likely very aware of the History between Sais, Egypt, and Athens, Greece, Hera is the God who releases Typhon and is Angry the Giants died, and Hercules is then the founder of several Roman towns. Why then, would Hannibal not only worship Hercules, but put images of himself and his Father both as Hercules on his Coinage? It seems that there used to be a different view of Hercules, and his name was Melqart in Carthage, so there is another side to that story.

We then see that after Hannibal goes to Italy, and brings together the Spanish and French and Portuguese Tribes to then fight Rome, and defect Italians from the Romans. We can see that there was likely already some type of connection between these people, likely because Hannibal was Temple Society descendant, Hannibal was from the Culture of Malta and the Dolmens, he was these people. Rome then had to adopt Phrygian Deities, including Cybelle, and they had to allow Unics under Roman Law, and though it was illegal for a Roman to be a Unic, they allowed it in their Society. And this Deity, Cybelle, was put in a very important Temple of Victory in Rome. So now, this made it where this connection that Hannibal had to the Ancients, that Hannibal had to the Italians, and to the Iberian Peninsula, was then counteracted by a new found connection between Phrygia, modern Turkey, and Rome. And Rome later moved their Capitol from Italy, to Turkey under Constantine, this being retained in the song “Istanbul not Constantinople” which is about the name being changed.
205–204 BC: During the Second Punic War, upon consultation of the Sibylline Books, an image of Cybele was transferred from Pessinos (Pessinous or Pergamon) to Rome. An embassy was sent to Attalus I of Pergamon to negotiate the transfer. Publius Cornelius Scipio Nasica and Claudia Quintawere said to have received the image of Cybele at Ostia on her arrival in 204 BC. Cybele's image was placed within the Temple of Victory on the Palatine. In honour of Cybele a lectisternium was performed and her games, the Megalesia, were held.[9]The image of Cybele was moved to the Temple of the Magna Mater in 191 BC when the temple was dedicated by Marcus Junius Brutus in the consulship of Publius Cornelius Scipio Nasica.[10] A fragment of Valerius Antias from Livy's Ab Urbe Condita36.36.4 records that Megalesia were again held in 191 BC and that "[they] were the first to be held with dramatic performances".

So then Carthage is Destroyed. This Colony would have been like Delos in terms of Trade, Carthage was like a 2nd Giza, like Alexandria in a way, which were both not too far away and had recently been overtaken by Alexander. Alexander had made himself Heir to the Egyptian throne, and after his death at a Young Age, Alexander’s throne then went to Ptolemy and Aristotle, his Tutor. Alexander became Emperor of Phrygia, and ruler of everything. So Carthage would not only be the main point of Trade between Deeper Africa and the Mediterranean, which is well established, Carthage would have been like “The other Option”, Carthage was somewhere you could go that was like Egypt, like Delos, like Athens, like these other places, but it was a Society with no walls for Protection, it did not need them. It was a place that was a center point for something much larger, Carthage had Hanno the Navigator, and all kinds of advanced Technology for the time. They were the Premiere Civilization. So when Rome destroyed Carthage and burned it systematically for weeks, using the Beeswax as Fuel, and with the knowledge that they were the Phoenix, hoping they could burn this Phoenix into oblivion. The Punics then fled to the Ancient Dolmen, Temple Culture Homelands, Mauritania, Macedonia, Croatia, etc. These are places where they would be safe, and we have clear Evidence of them fleeing to Brittium (Hannibal goes to Brittium), as well as Mauratania, they would likely go to Macedonia given the Ancient connection, and then also to Ireland and the U.K., which we can see in various Instances.

There is plenty of Oak Worship in Ireland, Oak being central to Celtic Religion and Yellow Dies, which is also related to the Celt Iberians of Hannibal’s army, as well as the Northern Africa region, so now we can see that there is a similar group that we can already start connecting to the Modern group there. If we look further into the Dyes of Ireland, we can see that they are likely an extension of the Weaving Culture, which in Egypt is associated with Neith, who is the Goddess of Sais. Harris Fleece is an example in Scotland, which is known for being involved with Mystery Tradition, as well as Dolmens. It is thought by many that the Templars fled to Scotland, and that the Scottish Rite Mystery Traditions come from there, but it is likely that the Mysteries were in Scotland before the Templars. If we then use what we know about the Temple Culture, we can say that this also is similar to Salmon, going back to their Ancestral Breeding grounds upstream, but instead this is the Temple Culture now fleeing to those Ancestral Lands, which at the time of Hannibal being tied to the Phoenician Culture, they are known to have been traveling as far as Britain already just to gather Tin. So they would even have relationships with the Modern Inhabitants of their Ancient Lands. We can also see the Cudgel in Ireland, as evolving in the same line as that of the Boomerang, which comes from the throwing Stick which is associated with Bird Hunting and Bird Goddesses, and is Associated with both the Mace and the Wand, the Cudgel, the Mace, the Wand and the Boomerang all come from the same lineage of Technology and Bird Goddesses.

This can further be evidenced by Menhir Stones, like the Granny Kempock Stone. These Menhir seem to be a symbol of Marriage, for a Sailor. A Place a Sailor can tell someone he has Married, or otherwise wed himself to, that he will be back and that the person they are wed to can now come to this place where this stone is and they will be back. If the Dolmen Culture and the Temple Culture and the Phaiakians are all the same people, this makes sense, and if these people are also the Punics (as a merged Entity, within the open Framework of Carthaginian Society in which Lebanese descendants who had features like that of Zeus like King Agenor and King Phoenix who founded these places, were clearly not the genetic makeup that dominated these people. If we look at Punic Statues we see Afros, and we see Nappy or Curly/Wavey hair. Punics seem to be the Temple Culture, then being the Dolmen Culture, who clearly have a presence near Morocco/Mauritania and Carthage, then being Colonized by the Phoenicians, by King Agnor, in a very agreeable way. Then establishing the Coastal African Kingdom then Republic, which then Fled to Italy, Croatia, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and the U.K., this can be very well seen in Cadiz, which was basically a Midway stop.

We can then assume that these people may have gone out further in the Atlantic at this time, and any Punic or otherwise Phoenician script would be easily explained by this, which would have then easily been able to meld into whatever American Culture existed, as these people were Edifiers and Capitalists, people who liked to teach people to be Masters of their own Life’s and Destinies, it seems that they were in tune with Whether Cycles, as well as able to possibly predict things like Asteroids or Volcanic eruptions, or at the very least teach people to observe all of this, and be aware of it. This would explain various things, such as the 2 Story houses seen by the Colonists in Jamestown, as there were 2 Story houses reported, as well as Stone Walls built by Natives. And it is very strange that the Roanoke group before them seems to have decided to give up their Colony, and instead live among the Natives, writing “CROATOAN” and a Tree.

This perspective can be cross cross referrenced with the Biblical stories of Angels, like Sodom and Gamorrah. Which would partially explain why they didn't associate with Greeks EDITED BY MOD.




And suddenly the end of Pax Romana makes sense. Anyone who thinks Rome were the good guys in History, Read a book.

About 400 years after Hannibal, Septimus Severus becomes Emporer after killing his 2 African competitors, one called "Niger" meaning "Black", and he looks African and has Egyptian ties, and the other is "Albinus" meaning "White" who has the Britsh and African ties, but they are clearly calling him "Light Skinned". And Septimus is a Light Skinned Libyan, who after defeating them becomes Emporer then kicks out the Praetorian guard (the Roman CIA) taking their ceremonial armour and banning them from coming within 99 miles of Rome or die, and kills a bunch of Senators creating a Dictatorship but the people of Rome love it because they were corrupt, he then Auctions off the Empire. Then saves Christians he knows the families of from Death. Basically completely reforming Rome, and in a way that seems like:

1. A nearly equal opposite reaction to destruction of Carthage;
2. Rome was an African enterprise at that point, even before he took control


This may then also explain the Angels which arranged for the Kings to follow the star to find Jesus, tell Mary to name her son Emmanuel, and tell Joseph to go to Egypt to escape Herod and return after Herod died. In Egypt they may also have been aware of the Bloodline of Jesus, given they were in Sebbenytos, where Manetho wrote Aegyptiaca. This may also then be associated with Joseph Smith and Mormon Tradition, there is actually evidence, and we need more of course, that the Greek Giants, are the Phaiakians, are the Nephilim, are the Punics, are the Subjects of King Agenor long before Rome, but built Dolmens before they met King Agenor.

So Christian Angels, then are the Greek Phoenix. And the Wax Headcones seen in Egypt and on Statues in Carthage are Serapis related, and may be the precursor to the modern Halo along with the Apis and other deity Sun Disk, which for Serapis is replaced with a Soap Mold Cup or Soap Dish.

In 1616, Smith wrote a letter to Queen Anne of Denmark in anticipation of Pocahontas's visit to England. In this new account, his capture included the threat of his own death: "at the minute of my execution, she hazarded the beating out of her own brains to save mine; and not only that but so prevailed with her father, that I was safely conducted to Jamestown."

He explained that he was captured and taken to the paramount chief where "two great stones were brought before Powhatan: then as many as could layd hands on him [Smith], dragged him to them, and thereon laid his head, and being ready with their clubs, to beate out his braines, Pocahontas the Kings dearest daughter, when no intreaty could prevaile, got his head in her armes, and laid her owne upon his to save him from death."

When the colonists were starving, "every once in four or five days, Pocahontas with her attendants brought him [Smith] so much provision that saved many of their lives that else for all this had starved with hunger."

"From these sources I am able to say, in contradiction to this representation, that he is neither more defective in ardor, nor more impotent with his female, than the white reduced to the same diet and exercise: that he is brave, when an enterprise depends on bravery; education with him making the point of honor consist in the destruction of an enemy by stratagem, and in the preservation of his own person free from injury; or perhaps this is nature; while it is education which teaches us to* honor force more than that he will defend himself against an host of enemies, always chusing to be killed, rather than to* surrender, though it be to the whites, who he knows will treat him well:
In so judicious an author as Don Ulloa, and one to whom we are indebted for the most precise information we have of South America, I did not expect to find such assertions as the following. 'Los Indios vencidos son los mas cobardes y pusilanimes que se peuden vér:—se hacen inocentes, se humillan hasta el desprecio, disculpan su inconsiderado arrojo, y con las súplicas y los ruegos dán seguras pruebus de su pusilanimidad.—ó lo que refieren las historias de la Conquista, sobre sus grandes acciones, es en un sendito figurado, ó el caracter de estas gentes no es ahora segun era entonces; pero lo que no tiene duda es, que las Naciones de la parte Septentrional subsisten en la misma libertad que siempre han tenido, sin haber sido sojuzgados por algun Principe extrano, y que viven segun su régimen y costumbres de toda la vida, sin que haya habido motivo para que muden de caracter; y en estos se vé lo mismo, que sucede en los del Peru, y de toda la América Meridional, reducidos, y que nunca lo han estado.' Noticias Americanas. Entretenimiento XVIII. §. 1. Don Ulloa here admits, that the authors who have described the Indians of South America, before they were enslaved, had represented them as a brave people, and therefore seems to have suspected that the cowardice which he had observed in those of the present race might be the effect of subjugation. But, supposing the Indians of North America to be cowards also, he concludes the ancestors of those of South America to have been so too, and therefore that those authors have given fictions for truth. He was probably not acquainted himself with the Indians of North America, and had formed his opinion of them from hear-say. Great numbers of French, of English, and of Americans, are perfectly acquainted with these people. Had he had an opportunity of enquiring of any of these, they would have told him, that there never was an instance known of an Indian begging his life when in the power of his enemies: on the contrary, that he courts death by every possible insult and provocation. His reasoning then would have been reversed thus. 'Since the present Indian of North America is brave, and authors tell us, that the ancestors of those of South America were brave also; it must follow, that the cowardice of their descendants is the effect of subjugation and ill treatment.' For he observes, ib. §. 27. that 'los obrages los aniquilan por la inhumanidad con que se les trata.'

that in other situations also he meets death with more deliberation, and endures tortures with a firmness unknown almost to religious enthusiasm with us: that he is affectionate to his children, careful of them, and indulgent in the extreme: that his affections comprehend his other connections, weakening, as with us, from circle to circle, as they recede from the center: that his friendships are strong and faithful to the uttermost† extremity:
A remarkable instance of this appeared in the case of the late Col. Byrd, who was sent to the Cherokee nation to transact some business with them. It happened that some of our disorderly people had just killed one or two of that nation. It was therefore proposed in the council of the Cherokees that Col. Byrd should be put to death, in revenge for the loss of their countrymen. Among them was a chief called Silòuee, who, on some former occasion, had contracted an acquaintance and friendship with Col. Byrd. He came to him every night in his tent, and told him not to be afraid, they should not kill him. After many days deliberation, however, the determination was, contrary to Silòuee's expectation, that Byrd should be put to death, and some warriors were dispatched as executioners. Silòuee attended them, and when they entered the tent, he threw himself between them and Byrd, and said to the warriors, 'this man is my friend: before you get at him, you must kill me.' On which they returned, and the council respected the principle so much as to recede from their determination. " -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia

This also happened in Egypt, really South of Egypt, then made its way up to what we call Babylon, Israel and Lebanon, then to Europe. The same way the Greek Gods slowly became the Roman Gods, and these distinct deities from 2 different cultures merged together, this continually happened over and over. And they merged together like puzzle pieces made for each other, because they are stories that all contain an element of reality.

Those that worship Poseidon in 1 County, learned that somewhere. They did not just randomly decided to one day become a Poseidon based City, that was who they are and now they could define themselves. And others claim to be founded by Poseidon and his children, these are actual stories about the heritage of these people in the same way the Table of Nations is in the Bible. When Ancient Mythology talks about Demi-Gods, they are not talking about Children of God like Jesus, they are often talking about a larger concept, either an Ethnic Group, or a Place, or a Technological Phenomenon. The easiest way to understand this is in the European use of Bird Deities, Bird Deities in Europe often simply symbolize a larger than life concept. The Aquila Eagle in Ancient Rome was no different than the American Eagle today, it symbolizes the country, its might, its military, its prowess, that is what the Aquila (Eagle, and Zeus’ lighting bolt) represented, the might of the Nation, first Greece then Rome, and in the Mythologies the Demi-Gods created by Zeus having ... or raping, are stories about what happened when 2 Cultures Collided, Zeus representing Greece and Rome. The Phoenix is King Phoenix, a King that did amazing things in a time we think of as Cave Man times, his deeds then led to the Phoenicians and the Punics, but the Greeks simply could not comprehend his deeds, and talked about him and the culture he created as the Phoenix Bird. These Birds can be compared to Noah’s children in the Bible, like Ham and Shem, etc. Then we can see the Cities in the Books by Homer, and Jason and the Argonauts, etc, that these Demi-Gods are often similar to the Birds, or again the Sons of Noah, the Demi-Gods are Forefathers in other words, and these stories and Calendars are a bringing together of everyone’s forefathers, in the best way for everyone, or (depending on if it is Propaganda or Nature/Real) for your Empirical Rule, no different than Kings making corrupted or shortened Bibles in the more recent past, hence you know what the Phoenix is but have likely never heard of King Phoenix before now. And these Forefather stories are then able to be read to see what they are talking about, and usually the stories tell of a God or Demi-God, who comes from one place or another, and then founds the town.

This same concept can be seen in the Titans, Monsters and the Giants, etc. The Titans are Natural Concepts, or important pieces of History. The Monsters are Historical events, or other Concepts or people that have been “overcome” by the Greeks, who consider these things to be Monsters, which is likely not always accurate. If we read Plato’s Allegory of the Cave with this level of knowledge, we can now see that Plato is agreeing with us, and is saying that the Greeks should not be afraid of these Shadows they are seeing on the walls and calling Monsters, but should venture out and meet the simple creatures casting the shadows. These large Concepts the Greeks are calling Monsters, and Giants, and Titans, are things that are less Tangible than they seem, they are like the Birds, they are Concepts far above our Physical hands capability of apprehending or really the Ancient Greek mind of Comprehending (someone did understand it, as someone was making these stories for the others, so some groups of people seem to have understood enough to do it this way for the ignorant others), and we know this because of their place in the stories, they are not Human in form or mind like the Gods seem to be, they are these big hulking nearly unrestrained Concepts; these Monsters, Giants and Titans are what Plato is talking about in the Allegory of the Cave. The Demi-God stories and others were Historical elaboration, with an actual basis, and the Birds were real things within their lives, but the Monsters were things they did not understand, and the Giants seem to be something that existed in Macedonia, that may explain Philip II and Alexander more deeply, which then would explain the Empire Rome Inherited, Alexander would have been well aware of the Stories of Giants coming from his home, of which he was Prince and then King and a more highly urbanized Kingdom than it had ever been before, after his father Instituted Homer’s Champion system in their Military and Nobility.

The Giants seem to be associated with the Ph- Prefix, and the Ph- Prefix can be seen as usually to have come from the Phoenicians in some way, as even today in modern times most of the words we have starting with Ph- are known to be literally derived from the actual word Phoenician, like Phonetic, and Telephone, all of these come from Phoenicia while the word Philosophy seems less clear because it is so common in Ancient Greece. But the Giants come from Phlegra, the Homer says himself that they are descendants of the Phoenicians. So now we can see the Phoenicians, in Macedonia, before the Time of Alexander the Great, likely spurring Alexander the Great to action, and likely providing the capability. If not being the Forefathers of Macedonia all together, as later we do see Hannibal Barca retire to Dalmatia, in Croatia, after the fall of Carthage. Hannibal also made a Treaty with Alexander the Great’s descendant while ruling Italy. If there is a distinction between the Phoenicians and Phaiakians to be made here, it would only be that the Phoenicians are the Eastern Phoenicians, and the Phaiakians are the Western Phoenicians, or Punics. Or in other words, these are not direct atomic descendants of King Phoenix, but members of his later Culture. The story of the Giants tells of the Gods, all being very Human in this story, go to Macedonia and kill the Giants, who are all basically just Humans, and there is not much information on why.

If we look at the Greek stories regarding the Phaiakians, they seem to be sparse and do not line up with each other completely. For example, in the story of the Giants, they are attacking heaven with rocks and arrows, when the Greek Gods make war with them. But then in Homer’s story, the see the Greeks and flee because they have never seen strangers before, and they call the Greeks strangers, and the story basically says they are scared of having seen new people. So in one story they are the Aggressive Giants of Macedonia, and in another they are the scared inhabitants of boat island, which lines up with actual recorded history that Carthage lost control of the Sea to Rome when they found one of their Boats, which could have very easily been as a result of the Phaiakians fleeing and leaving the boat there, or this could have been an even earlier version of the same thing happening where Greeks took over the Punic island. We can also see the Punics Worshiping Hercules, so the story of these Aggressive Giants being killed by Hercules and also being the Phaiakians seems wrong, and Hercules is better identified as the Carthaginian Melqart. And if we then look at where the Giants are buried, under islands and Volcanoes, we can see that they are likely Forefather Stories, stories of Founders, just like the Birds, just like the Demi-Gods, but made to be Monsters like the hulking nearly unlimited Concepts. The Giants are lumped in this same Category of Monster, but are actually another Forefather like Noah’s Table of Nations and Noah’s Sons, the Giants are Founders of several places, and seemingly, the people who identified the Volcanoes for the Greeks.

This can be seen as comparable to the story of the story of the Father of all Monsters, Typhon. This is a -Phon root word, so likely associated with the same culture. In the Story, Hera is angry that Zeues makes Athena in his head, this can likely be linked back to the connection between Sais, Egypt, and Athens, Greece, which are both founded by the same Deity. Neith and Athena are the same Deity, but something happened, in which the Athenians rejected their Heritage, and as can be seen in the story of Arachne, reject the idea that Zeus ..... Leda and King Phoenix’s Family. The Concept of Athena coming out of Zeus’ head seems to be almost literal, in that Athena is removed from her founding roots, and is turned into this new Deity. As Arachne is Neith, and therefor Arachne is Athena’s past calling out to the Athenian people, and Athena turning her into a spider is her rejection of her own connection to Neith and the City of Sais. In another version of the story, Hera does not make the Monster Typhon in anger at Athena, but instead Gaea does it with no request, at her anger that the Gods destroyed the Giants, who were Gaea’s Direct Descendants. So Typhon comes from 1 of these 2 things, and is said to be raised in a Cave in Sicily, and Typhon is then the Father of all the Monsters. So the Giants are Human descendants of Gaea, the Gods kill them and put them under Volcanoes, these are the Phaiakians and Gaea is angered, so she then raises the Father of all monsters who is buried under a Volcano in Sicily, where they then center their Worship of Blacksmithing, so this story of the Monster who is released when Hera becomes angered about Athena, or because the Gods killed the Giants, is then the Founding story of Blacksmithing and Metal Working in Greece and Rome, all of this being centered in Sicily. Showing that the Allegory of the Cave by Plato, is in fact about the Greeks.

We can then now look at these stories, and see something. They are different but similar, the Giants are clearly identified as the Phaiakians by Historians now, but Typhon is clearly some large Demonic or even Jahovah like Concept, this beast that roars and speaks with the voice of all beasts and once, and has 1 human head and 1 of all others, and is tall to the sky, and reaches all the way East and West. This is almost like Noah’s Ark, or Ezekiel. The Gods all turn into Animals and flee to Egypt, which is likely a way to explain to the Greeks that the Egyptian Gods are the tied to theirs, but in reality the Egyptian ones came first. Then if we look further into the Typhon story, Metal Working is taught to the Greek God by the Sintians, on Lemnos, who are Destructive Pirates according to the Greeks, but they call the Phaiakians both Aggressive Giants, and Scared people who have never seen a Stranger. So it seems odd that the Monster Gaea calls when the Giants are Destroyed, is then defeated when the Metal Working God learns Blacksmithing from the Destructive Pirates. It is likely that this is not all so separate as we all think, and that the 2 people’s knew each other, or possibly were even different groups of the same Culture. It is not completely clear yet.

AlpinLuke said:

@RevSasha

you have just joined Historum and I'm going to concede that you can use to stay on other forums with different environments.
In any case similar descriptions and definitions cannot be accepted here.



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I didn't mean it as an insult, but I see what you are saying since I did ascribe it to all of their people. I apologize for not at least being a little more nuanced and detailed, explaining that it was not all Greeks, just many within those Ancient the Greek Fraternal Orders, as they saw it as important to Education, and they created Islands like ......, hence the word Lesbian, and there were Deities like Adonis, etc. And that it then became part of Rome. I should have explained what I wanted to say and not just said Greeks were all like that.

Also, when Septimius Severus removed the Praetorian Guard, he apparently replaced them with Danubians.

This new Guard would then be associated with the Cultures from Jason and the Golden Fleece.


And by 301 A.D. Armenians have Christianity as the State Religion. Yerevan is also older than Rome, and the Punic Emporer would know that, as the descendant of Phaiakians.

This book was written about 100 A.D.

"Will you teach me, then," said the other, "all this wisdom?"

"Aye, and gladly, for that is a wiser course than grudging and hiding matters of interest; and moreover, O Apollonius, I perceive that you are well endowed with memory, a goddess whom we love more than any other of the divine beings."

"Well," said the other, "you have certainly discerned by your penetration my exact disposition."

"We," said the other, "O Apollonius, can see all spiritual traits, for we trace and detect them by a thousand signs. But as it is nearly midday, and we must get ready our offerings for the Gods, let us now employ ourselves with that, and afterwards let us converse as much as you like; but you must take part in all our religious rites."

"By Zeus," said Apollonius, "I should be wronging the Caucasus and the Indus, both of which I have crossed in order to reach you, if I did not feast myself on your rites to the full."

"Do so," said the other, "and let us depart."

[3.17] Accordingly they betook themselves to a spring of water, which Damis, who saw it subsequently, says resembles that of Dirce in Boeotia; and first they stripped, and then they anointed their heads with an amber-like drug, which imparted such a warmth to these Indians, that their bodies steamed and the sweat ran off them as profusely as if they were washing themselves with fire; next they threw themselves into the water and, having so taken their bath, they betook themselves to the temple with wreaths upon their heads and full of sacred song. And they stood round in the form of a chorus, and having chosen Iarchas as conductor they struck the earth, uplifting their rods, and the earth arched itself like a billow of the sea and raised them up two cubits high into the air. But they sang a song resembling the paean of Sophocles which they sing at Athens in honor of Asclepius.

But when they had alighted upon the ground, Iarchas called the stripling who carried the anchor and said: "Do you look after the companions of Apollonius."

And he went off swifter than the quickest of the birds, and coming back again said: "I have looked after them."

Having fulfilled then the most of their religious rites, they sat down to rest upon their seats, but Iarchas said to the stripling: "Bring out the throne of Phraotes for the wise Apollonius that he may sit upon it to converse with us."

[3.18] And when he had taken his seat, he said: "Ask whatever you like, for you find yourself among people who know everything."

Apollonius then asked him whether they knew themselves also, thinking that he, like the Greeks, would regard self-knowledge as a difficult matter.note But the other, contrary to Apollonius' expectations, corrected him and said: "We know everything, just because we begin by knowing ourselves; for no one of us would be admitted to this philosophy unless he first knew himself."

I am going to write about Atlas and Mauretania next.

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They also knew about Sri Lanka pretty far back in Rome.

Naomasa298 said:

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I'm not Christian, I am Hindu, but ok. We don't really Prosteletyze, so not a problem.

If you want to understand Ancient History like you never have before, first look into Hannibal Barca, Imhotep and Eshmun, then Aethiopia and Aksum, then Mopsus and Idmon the Argonaut.

Then, once you have the realization that something was going on outside of Greece and Rome, with the Islands, Africa and Iberian Peninsula, basically once you get to the Phoenicians, read Plato's Apology and Plato's Allegory of the Cave, which you will realize is about the Greeks being scared of "Monsters" out in the World. Then read the story of Jason and the Argonauts.

If you do that, you will be able to pick up any historical document, study where it came from, and what places it is talking about, and put it all together in a way you couldn't before. Just as an example, look at where Pythagreus is from now. Or research Delos, etc.

The reason the Carthaginian Gods and Arachne's Father, and Jason with the Golden Fleece and the Argonauts, all tie everything together, is because their life stories read like Bible stories. They sound like real people, while often the actions of the past sound foreign.

Scheria - Wikipedia

Corfu - Wikipedia

THE GOLDEN FLEECE AND THE HEROES WHO LIVED BEFORE ACHILLES

These people, who are also likely associated with the Dark Skinned Beekeepers in Egypt, and/or the Sea People. Are possibly who the New Testament were calling the Angels of the Lord.

Philostratus. in Vit. Apollon (Lib. II), says, "The Indi are the wisest of mankind. The Ethiopians are a colony of them, and they inherit the wisdom of their fathers." Some Christmas History


"In Crete there is said to be a sacred cave full of bees. In it, as storytellers say, Rhea gave birth to Zeus; it is a sacred place and no one is to go near it, whether god or mortal. At the appointed time each year a great blaze is seen to come out of the cave. Their story goes on to say that this happens whenever the blood from the birth of Zeus begins to boil up. The sacred bees that were the nurses of Zeus occupy this cave." -Summary of ANTONINUS LIBERALIS, Metamorphosis quoted

Naomasa298 said:

Be aware that Historum rules forbid proselytising.

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And btw, my goal here was to define Temple Culture. Temple Culture is a term that has been popping up as a Neolithic Term around this subject, but no one has ever done this before.

I just wanted to write kind of a Temple Culture Constitution explaining the Punics, and the Ancient Heroes, so everyone could then use it as a reference. People can use this to go like expand on and write a Thesis, and I am writing like a Bibliotheca or Metamorphosis, like Aegyptiaca and Babyloniaca, which is my mind are all written in the same style, how you can say there are "Mirror for Princes" books, these are Ancient History Books. Aegyptiaca and Babyloniaca maybe being the most important things ever written, and the others maybe coming in close behind.

Naomasa298 said:

That makes me curious about your username. "Rev" suggests a Christian title, "Reverend", used for ministers of faith.

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I am a Hindu Minister.

Polybius agrees with this overall version of events also.

"All that befell the Romans was of one man and one mind, Hannibal" -Polybius

Between Hannibal and Jesus the Nephilim, Phaiakians or Giants as the Greeks called them, seem to be called Angels, then may have also been what are called Archons to the Gnostics, in the Nag Hammadi Scripture.

And I am kind of Bias against the Ancient Aliens Theory, as I see it as a Racists explanation to what happened before Europe became the Premiere Civilization, just "Aliens then White People", so I have not read the Epic of Gilgamesh, but when explaining this to someone they said automatically "then they would be Gilgamesh in the Epic of Gilgamesh too". So that might be them also.

And this lines up with my Theory, as they would have been 2 distinct Cultures until what the Greeks call Typhon, the Jews call the Flood, then the Greeks also call the Flood, and then they became aligned with King Agenor, and King Phoenix, who may be the Gilgamesh part, or the merge part. The merge is Western Phoenicians, and Eastern Phoenicians.

I will get a genetic timeline I have with 2 examples of these Ancient peoples.