1940 Baltic states alliance against the Soviet Union

Mar 2017
23
Poland
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Molotov also accused the Lithuanian government of conspiring with Latvia and Estonia to establish a secret military union (in reference to the Baltic Entente), thereby violating the mutual assistance pact.
Any proofs that the Baltic governments participated in an alliance against the Soviets?



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deaf tuner

Ad Honoris
Oct 2013
14,412
Europix
#3
Molotov also accused the Lithuanian government of conspiring with Latvia and Estonia to establish a secret military union (in reference to the Baltic Entente), thereby violating the mutual assistance pact.
Any proofs that the Baltic governments participated in an alliance against the Soviets?



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As Larrey, I didn't heard of.

But there's a funny thing in all that: " Molotov ... secret ... "

I'm waiting revelations on Ribbentrop accusing.
 
Jun 2018
471
New Hampshire
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Even if the Baltics States formed a military alliance against the Soviet Union, it wouldn't have been able to accomplish much of anything. The three states, even when combined, had and still have a tiny population with limited military capabilities. They certainly would not have been able to engage in the total war required to defeat such a powerful enemy.

The only hope for the Baltic states to successfully resist a Soviet invasion would have been to engage in guerilla warfare. Though even here, the Red Army had a great deal of practical experience in dealing with partisans in the territories already under there control.

In 1940, the Soviet Union maintained the largest standing army on earth which was well trained, battle hardened, and possessed state of the art weaponry. And in spite of Stalin's purges, still possessed talented and capable leadership. The Red Army would have easily crushed the combined military forces of the three Baltic states in a conventional war.
 

deaf tuner

Ad Honoris
Oct 2013
14,412
Europix
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Molotov also accused the Lithuanian government of conspiring with Latvia and Estonia to establish a secret military union (in reference to the Baltic Entente), thereby violating the mutual assistance pact.
Any proofs that the Baltic governments participated in an alliance against the Soviets?



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BTW, the question is a bit unclear, as, IMHO, is ignoring the time-line: the "Baltic Entente" was concluded in 1934, while the "Mutual pacts" with URSS were concluded in late 1939.

How can a (secret) military pact violate a mutual assistance pact years before the mutual pact appears?
 

Vaeltaja

Ad Honorem
Sep 2012
3,690
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There had been plenty of informal Baltic defense cooperation prior to 1939 but the fall of Poland and subsequent agreements with the Soviet by the Baltic states ended them. There existed links to Poland and Sweden as well but if i recall correctly Sweden pulled out from the cooperation already few years prior to 1939. Finland and Estonia had defense cooperation too, coastal artillery on both shores were linked (IIRC by underwater cable) and the defense purchases were aimed towards this goal as well - for example the Finnish and Estonian submarine acquisitions (minelaying submarines) in 1930s were primarily intended for bolstering the blockade of the Gulf of Finland.

That being said i can't really see anything showing those being in use after the mutual assistance pacts were signed. The one thing those agreements had been in common was the reliance on the 'balance of power' in the Baltic region. Which in this context refers to the power balance between the Germans and the Soviets. In other words prior to the MRP it was widely assumed that should either of the two main powers in the region powers take action it would lead to the other either staying neutral or taking the opposite side. This assumption of there not being cooperation between the Germans and the Soviets lead to a string of defense cooperation agreements in the region - with the basic idea that without being able to deal with their neighbors one by one the initial big player would be forced to disperse their forces against all the countries in the region so widely that it would undermine its efforts - and maybe allow the other main power to take action against the initial offender.

It would be wise to keep the above in mind when looking for example at the Finnish war plans of 1930s. Some Russians for example claim that Finnish VK1 (lit. Russia-Concentration 1) plan which set out for minor advances in order to reach favorable terrain was a plan for invading the USSR - and therefore a 'proof' of Finland planning to instigate a war against the USSR. It really was not - it couldn't have occurred without Soviet aggression against some other country in the informal cooperation. It even said so in the very plan itself.

TLDR - what Larrey said.
 
Mar 2012
71
Riga
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There was no co-operation. The main conflict involving a Baltic state was Polish-Lithuanian dispute about Vilnius. Latvia and Estonia did not have any willingness to participate in war with Poland. There is no information about common training or parades, like Stalins Russia and Hitler Germany in Brest.


I kind of remember mentioning that Russians as an evidence of Baltic Entante mentioned a quarterly publication which included pieces on military of 3 countries.