1979 Siege of Mecca

Nov 2010
258
Herzliya, Israel
#13
Never heared of this either. We have a famous beggar calling himself the Messiah in Tel-Aviv, but that's about it for us:)

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi]Sabbatai Zevi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] on the other hand...
 
Jan 2012
1,015
Karachi
#14
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi]Mahdi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

We can't really know because the oh so tolerant Saudis don't really tolerate stuff like this .
 

unclefred

Ad Honorem
Dec 2010
6,731
Oregon coastal mountains
#15
The guy I think of, who proclaimed himself the Mahdi, end-time redeemer of Islam, is Muhammad Ahmad who carried out a brutal religious war in the Sudan in the 1880's. Chinese Gordon was famously beheaded by the Mahdists.
 

AlpinLuke

Ad Honoris
Oct 2011
24,977
Lago Maggiore, Italy
#18
So how do we know that he wasn't the 'Madhi'?
Good question.

Probably it's a kind of cultural deformation. I tend to think that in Islamic tradition a leader tends to expect to win, not to sacrifice himself. So if this Madhi had defeated ...

But actually I cannot exclude he can be a Messiah in the Christian sense with the final purpose to sacrifice himself.
 

unclefred

Ad Honorem
Dec 2010
6,731
Oregon coastal mountains
#19
In Islamic eschatology, the Mahdi...is the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for seven, nine or nineteen years- (according to various interpretations)[1] before the Day of Judgment (yawm al-qiyamah / literally, the Day of Resurrection)[2] and will rid the world of wrongdoing, injustice and tyranny.[3]

There are, of course differing schools of thought: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi
 

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