1979 Siege of Mecca

Nov 2010
Herzliya, Israel
Never heared of this either. We have a famous beggar calling himself the Messiah in Tel-Aviv, but that's about it for us:)

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi]Sabbatai Zevi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] on the other hand...
Jan 2012
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi]Mahdi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

We can't really know because the oh so tolerant Saudis don't really tolerate stuff like this .


Ad Honorem
Dec 2010
Oregon coastal mountains
The guy I think of, who proclaimed himself the Mahdi, end-time redeemer of Islam, is Muhammad Ahmad who carried out a brutal religious war in the Sudan in the 1880's. Chinese Gordon was famously beheaded by the Mahdists.


Ad Honoris
Oct 2011
Italy, Lago Maggiore
So how do we know that he wasn't the 'Madhi'?
Good question.

Probably it's a kind of cultural deformation. I tend to think that in Islamic tradition a leader tends to expect to win, not to sacrifice himself. So if this Madhi had defeated ...

But actually I cannot exclude he can be a Messiah in the Christian sense with the final purpose to sacrifice himself.


Ad Honorem
Dec 2010
Oregon coastal mountains
In Islamic eschatology, the Mahdi...is the prophesied redeemer of Islam who will rule for seven, nine or nineteen years- (according to various interpretations)[1] before the Day of Judgment (yawm al-qiyamah / literally, the Day of Resurrection)[2] and will rid the world of wrongdoing, injustice and tyranny.[3]

There are, of course differing schools of thought: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

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