A study on the miracles (11° and 12°)

Jan 2019
44
Belgium
#1
Hello Everybody

First of all; sorry for my english

I present you today a summary of the book
« L’Homme et le Miracle dans la France Médiévale » Edition Biblis .

It’s a curious and very intéressant book .
The book is a statistical study of 5.000 miracles during the 11° and 12° century in France and in Belgium .

The book talk about the « saints » usuals (who are numerous) and didn't talk above the saints famous ( who are few).

  • To became « saint » (for the Church) you must be dead,but for the common people you are already « saint » during your life …. if you have do miracles...
  • Approximatively each town ,same of few importance, has its saint in its area.
  • The saint do « miracles » ,the miracles attract the pilgrims, the pilgrims make live the abbey and the city ….therefore the miracle has a great economical value .
    The main of the book is the study of this economical value

  • The « economical life of a « local saint » is approximatively of 2 or 3 years.
  • You have great miracles (for the great saints) for exemple a resurection,and litlle miracles (same very littles…) for exemple to light again a candle on his grave after its extinction…
  • There is a day an an hour to have the maximum chance to can benefit of a miracle it’s during the night of Saturday to Sunday and the night before his birthday or before his dead .
  • The best place for the miracle is just along, above or under his grave .
  • If you are a pilgrim you incrase already your chances as soon as you can see the church where the grave of the saint is .
  • You can benefit of a miracle from your home till the grave of the saint either when you go ,either when you go back at home (and some days after also) .
  • Each saint can have an action over approximatively 50 km around his grave .
  • More the saint is famous more the saint has an action far away of his grave .
  • It’s an advantage and a unconvenient to have the possibility of an action at long distance ; because ordinary peoples couldn’t travel very far of their home; thus a distance of 50 km is a maximum (for the ordinary people,not for the rich…) thus ... if he has an influence on more distance ,the number of pilgrims will decrease ,because they could have the miracle at home too ...without to have the cost of a pelegrinage …).
  • If you are the beneficiary of a miracle, by tradition you must remain one week there as advertising agent of the church or the abbey and witness of the miracle .
    If you do not the effects of the miracle can disappear …
  • If you fall again into the sin after the miracle,the effects of the miracle can disappear too…

  • If the church or the abbey didn’t has the grave of a saint ,it can have relics
  • The relics have their efficiency but it’s too a method that will reduce the number of pilgrims at the grave because the efficiency of the relics can be like that of the grave …and because the relics in this age can be multiply itself
  • All objects can became a relic : a bone, but also a piece of his clothes, everything witch has been in contact with the body during his live and after his dead .
  • An other kind of relics are the water,oil and wine who have been in contact with the bones of the saint.

  • In this age the saint make all kinds of miracles ; the specialisation of a saint appear in the 13° century : (woman’s pain , healt of cow,healt of pork,protection for the house,protection for the harvest harvest,plague …).
  • How it’s possible to explains the miracles ?
    A lot of causes :
    • hysteria
    • For the chronic diseases (especialy the fevers...) the time that passes :the fever most of the time will disappear (even if it has to come back later ...)
    • The simulation : the beneficiary of a miracle has always somme little and temporary secondary advantages of the miracles : logement,meal…
    • Etc

This his the summary of this book
You can find my work in french here :
http://histoiresite.e-monsite.com/medias/files/les-miracles-au-moyen.doc

Once again sorry for the mistakes ...
 
Jan 2010
4,414
Atlanta, Georgia USA
#2
Hello Everybody

First of all; sorry for my english

I present you today a summary of the book
« L’Homme et le Miracle dans la France Médiévale » Edition Biblis .

It’s a curious and very intéressant book .
The book is a statistical study of 5.000 miracles during the 11° and 12° century in France and in Belgium .

The book talk about the « saints » usuals (who are numerous) and didn't talk above the saints famous ( who are few).

  • To became « saint » (for the Church) you must be dead,but for the common people you are already « saint » during your life …. if you have do miracles...
  • Approximatively each town ,same of few importance, has its saint in its area.
  • The saint do « miracles » ,the miracles attract the pilgrims, the pilgrims make live the abbey and the city ….therefore the miracle has a great economical value .
    The main of the book is the study of this economical value

  • The « economical life of a « local saint » is approximatively of 2 or 3 years.
  • You have great miracles (for the great saints) for exemple a resurection,and litlle miracles (same very littles…) for exemple to light again a candle on his grave after its extinction…
  • There is a day an an hour to have the maximum chance to can benefit of a miracle it’s during the night of Saturday to Sunday and the night before his birthday or before his dead .
  • The best place for the miracle is just along, above or under his grave .
  • If you are a pilgrim you incrase already your chances as soon as you can see the church where the grave of the saint is .
  • You can benefit of a miracle from your home till the grave of the saint either when you go ,either when you go back at home (and some days after also) .
  • Each saint can have an action over approximatively 50 km around his grave .
  • More the saint is famous more the saint has an action far away of his grave .
  • It’s an advantage and a unconvenient to have the possibility of an action at long distance ; because ordinary peoples couldn’t travel very far of their home; thus a distance of 50 km is a maximum (for the ordinary people,not for the rich…) thus ... if he has an influence on more distance ,the number of pilgrims will decrease ,because they could have the miracle at home too ...without to have the cost of a pelegrinage …).
  • If you are the beneficiary of a miracle, by tradition you must remain one week there as advertising agent of the church or the abbey and witness of the miracle .
    If you do not the effects of the miracle can disappear …
  • If you fall again into the sin after the miracle,the effects of the miracle can disappear too…

  • If the church or the abbey didn’t has the grave of a saint ,it can have relics
  • The relics have their efficiency but it’s too a method that will reduce the number of pilgrims at the grave because the efficiency of the relics can be like that of the grave …and because the relics in this age can be multiply itself
  • All objects can became a relic : a bone, but also a piece of his clothes, everything witch has been in contact with the body during his live and after his dead .
  • An other kind of relics are the water,oil and wine who have been in contact with the bones of the saint.

  • In this age the saint make all kinds of miracles ; the specialisation of a saint appear in the 13° century : (woman’s pain , healt of cow,healt of pork,protection for the house,protection for the harvest harvest,plague …).
  • How it’s possible to explains the miracles ?
    A lot of causes :
    • hysteria
    • For the chronic diseases (especialy the fevers...) the time that passes :the fever most of the time will disappear (even if it has to come back later ...)
    • The simulation : the beneficiary of a miracle has always somme little and temporary secondary advantages of the miracles : logement,meal…
    • Etc

This his the summary of this book
You can find my work in french here :
http://histoiresite.e-monsite.com/medias/files/les-miracles-au-moyen.doc

Once again sorry for the mistakes ...
In regard to your last item heading, I would add that the saint, even when dead, was a vehicle to channel God’s grace into the physical world.
 

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