Additional giant countries that could realistically be created as a result of colonialism

Futurist

Ad Honoris
May 2014
22,321
SoCal
In real life, countries with an absolutely enormous population such as the US, Brazil, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, and Nigeria were created as a result of colonialism. As in, without colonialism, these countries would have been unlikely to exist in the first place--with them probably being replaced by much smaller countries. (Russia and China were also both empires, but their state-formation process appears to have been more organic in the sense that people with similar languages were unified into one country. This is in contrast with, say, India or Pakistan or Indonesia or Nigeria where people who spoke all sorts of different languages were put into one country.) Anyway, I was wondering which additional giant countries (giant based on their current-day population, of course) could have realistically been created as a result of colonialism had history unfolded differently. For instance, I was thinking of Mittelafrika if Germany would have won WWI and been able to make territorial concessions in Europe in exchange for a huge German empire in Africa, but would Mittelafrika have actually been a viable independent country after independence--or would it have succumbed to Balkanization? :




Also, what about putting French West Africa and/or British East Africa into one country before independence? In addition, what about a country such as this one? :


Anyway, any thoughts on this?
 
Apr 2017
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Mittelafrika wouldn't have been sustaninable.

Britain initially tried to unite all its Caribbean territories into one giant country, it didn't workout though.
Uniting all the arab lands liberated from the Ottomans.
Venezuela, Colombia, Panama and Ecuador were originally one country before they broke up.
Mexico for a while ruled Central America and the southwest.
 
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Futurist

Ad Honoris
May 2014
22,321
SoCal
Mittelafrika wouldn't have been sustaninable.
Too diverse and no unifying factor like Hinduism with India or Islam with most of Indonesia?

Britain initially tried to unite all its Caribbean territories into one giant country, it didn't workout though.
When?

Uniting all the arab lands liberated from the Ottomans.
Including Egypt and the Maghreb?

Venezuela, Colombia, Panama and Ecuador were originally one country before they broke up.
Interesting.

Mexico for a while ruled Central America and the southwest.
Yep.

Also, any other examples that you can think of?
 
Jun 2018
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New Hampshire
Too diverse and no unifying factor like Hinduism with India or Islam with most of Indonesia?



When?



Including Egypt and the Maghreb?



Interesting.



Yep.

Also, any other examples that you can think of?
How about an Islamic Caliphate uniting all of the world's Muslim majority countries? The Ummayad Caliphate did exactly that. Though granted the world's Islamic population was much smaller during the 7th and 8th centuries, and mostly confined to the Near East and North Africa.
 
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MAGolding

Ad Honorem
Aug 2015
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Chalfont, Pennsylvania
If the Kingdom of the East and the West Indias, the Islands and Mainland of the Ocean Sea, had revolted from Spain as a unit and stayed a single country, it would have been one of the Largest countries in the world, containing much of the Caribbean, much of North and South America, and many Pacific islands.
 
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Feb 2014
328
Miami
Mexico would have been a giant country if they didn’t lose their Northern Territory and the small Central American states didn’t secede

Bolivar wanted all of the post Spanish colonies to be under the banner of one federation
 
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Feb 2017
152
Latin America
The Captanía General de Guatemala was quite big as it included not only virtually all of Central America excepting Panama but also much of southern Mexico. It became the Central American Federation when it became independent from Spain and could have included Panama as well had it made a deal with Colombia. It had the potential to oust the British from Belize too. Sadly, it got Balkanised and now Central America is home to the smallest continental countries of the Americas.
 
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