America played the key role in German defeat in World War I

pugsville

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Oct 2010
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-germany lost more ground in 1914/16/17 then in second battle of marne... The strategic importance was in the context of arriving millions of us soldiers which meant no hope of winning the war.. Not because of losing a few km2 with nő strategic importance

-british/french offensives were succesfull because hundreds of thousands of us troops were in the frontline... If you remove them british/french troops would have to be removed from the attacking troops to hold the lines elswhere... So simple is that
10% get some perspective,
 
Jul 2019
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New Jersey
Simply not True The French were fighting and attacking successfully in 1918,. the Mutinies tend to get over played.
But that was only because the Americans came. Petain said "J'attends les chars et les américains." Even Clemenceau agreed with him on that point.
 

Maki

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Jan 2017
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Republika Srpska
-you just want to say that france was not same exhausted as germany?
It was, but it had allies, primarily Britain. Also, while the French were exhausted, they still fought and attacked in 1918. Keep in mind that the collapse of other Central Powers was also inevitable so that would also worsen Germany's position.
 

pugsville

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Oct 2010
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Was Petain a political figure during the Great War?
the context also changed , if the Germans had waited on the defensive, then the French would have waited for the Allies to build up enough strength to attack. But the Spring Offensive really badly damaged teh German army, killed off much of their better troops and left them holding not the carefully selected defensive terrain they had earlier. The Germans were over extended, exhursted, devoid of reserves, and cracking moral wise. The situation was not the same as in 1917, ameiricans or not it was teh time to attack.
 

Larrey

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Sep 2011
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But that was only because the Americans came. Petain said "J'attends les chars et les américains." Even Clemenceau agreed with him on that point.
Yes, and the Yanks get 100% attention and the tanks 0% attention by those who think that should be the spread in order to conclude that the French could not fight WWI.

Yet the tanks were 100% independent of the Americans to begin with.

The French were conducting for WWI highly successful offensive operations by October 1917 based on a combined arms approach centered on their tanks.