American Footage of Nazi Concentration Camps

Naomasa298

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How old are you right now?

Futurist - I'm not going to warn you again about asking personal questions in open forum regardless of whether the other party minds or not. If you want to ask personal questions, do it via PM. If I see you doing this again, you WILL be suspended.
 
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Naomasa298

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Strange how much of that footage was acceptable as general viewing when it was used in Judgment at Nuremberg - Wikipedia
That was my question, was this the footage shown in the trial?

The transcript of the trial is quite telling when it was shown, and the reaction of the Nazis was also interesting. Keitel was very upset that the prosecutors showed "that horrible footage" and raged about how the Wehrmacht had nothing to do with it and it was all Himmler's fault (going from memory here, I no longer have my copy of Gustave Gilbert's book).
 
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johnincornwall

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I think the World at War series put it across quite well. Made in 1970/69? Still showing now. Was always a definitive series but looking back on it now the outstanding thing is it's all eye-witnesses speaking, now long-dead
 
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AlpinLuke

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The Wehrmacht ...

I have had deep discussions on other forums with German historians about the involvement of the Wehrmacht into the madness of the Nazis. The point is really simple: if the Wehrmacht didn't agree with was the SS were doing ... the SS had no logistical possibility to do what they did. Let's not be naive. The officers of the Wehrmacht simply followed the SS commands, agreeing or not ... they don't care a nut about Jews, Roma people, Socialists, Jehowa's witnesses ...
 
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Is this the footage shown at the Nuremberg trial?
I don't know for sure, but I believe so.

Edit: I've done a bit of digging, and yes, this was the footage shown (although I don't know if all of it was shown or just excerpts).
 
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Naomasa298

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The Wehrmacht ...

I have had deep discussions on other forums with German historians about the involvement of the Wehrmacht into the madness of the Nazis. The point is really simple: if the Wehrmacht didn't agree with was the SS were doing ... the SS had no logistical possibility to do what they did. Let's not be naive. The officers of the Wehrmacht simply followed the SS commands, agreeing or not ... they don't care a nut about Jews, Roma people, Socialists, Jehowa's witnesses ...
Of course. I'm just saying that's what Keitel claimed. I don't believe him, but it's possible that he, insulated in Hitler's staff office, was never exposed to any evidence. That doesn't absolve him of anything.
 

sculptingman

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anti-semitism was rife- all across Europe and the US.
The only difference in germany was the economic devastation of Versailles, and a political party willing to scapegoat the one group everyone was already prejudiced against.

The US turned away a ship full of Jewish refugees.


In many respects, the effect of these atrocities coming to light was to chasten ALL of us. We saw clearly where religious and racial enmity CAN lead- given the wrong conditions.
It was really only After these films were seen that Anti-semitism in the US came to be seen as shameful.
It was really only After television started broadcasting imagery of violence against blacks that the civil rights movement really began to make strides.

Sadly- we have to have our noses rubbed in the horrors of which our petty hatreds make us all capable before we decide to eschew those bigotries.
 
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Nemowork

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That was my question, was this the footage shown in the trial?

The transcript of the trial is quite telling when it was shown, and the reaction of the Nazis was also interesting. Keitel was very upset that the prosecutors showed "that horrible footage" and raged about how the Wehrmacht had nothing to do with it and it was all Himmler's fault (going from memory here, I no longer have my copy of Gustave Gilbert's book).
Judgement at Nuremberg is a TV movie, stars Maximillian Schell and Spencer Tracy, it uses raw archive footage for a section. Since its a black and white movie it gets shown regularly amongst the classics. BBC2 used to show in the afternoon slot.
 

royal744

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Judgement at Nuremberg is a TV movie, stars Maximillian Schell and Spencer Tracy, it uses raw archive footage for a section. Since its a black and white movie it gets shown regularly amongst the classics. BBC2 used to show in the afternoon slot.
Not a TV movie, but a Hollywood movie. Excellent movie, by the way with excellent actors:Tracy, Schell, Widmark, even Judy Garland and others. Stanley Kramer at his best.