An Austro-Ottoman war sometime between 1815 and 1845

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How would an Austro-Ottoman war sometime between 1815 and 1845 look like? The logic behind this war would be to liberate the Balkan Christians from Ottoman rule--in other words, a Christian mission similar to the Crusades back in the day, but much less bloody and savage.

Who would win this war? Would the other Great Powers get involved in this war, and if so, which ones? Finally, what exactly is the post-war settlement going to look like in this scenario and what effects will this settlement have on subsequent history?
 
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At the time Metternich dominated Austrian politics, he had a policy of maintaining order and crushing internal dissent.
If this changed for whatever reason, then it could escalate as Russia would also want territory.
There are many opportunities for this, the greek war of independence and their war with Egypt. In either (or neither) case, the Europeans would be easily victorious, possibly taking territory or setting up independent states. It would probably be similar to what happened later, now occurring much earlier.
 
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Which Ottoman territories other than B-H do you think that Austria would have directly annexed? Also, what about Russia? What would it have gotten?
 
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Which Ottoman territories other than B-H do you think that Austria would have directly annexed? Also, what about Russia? What would it have gotten?
This may go down like in real life, autonomous regions leading to independent Balkan states.
Or people could get greedy. Wallachia would be desired by both Austria and Russia, possibly leading to a war. If Austria take it, it closes down Russia's expansion into the Balkans. If Russia takes it, Austria is being encircled.
Aside from this Austria would want bosnia. Serbia was already semi-independent, so no expansion here without significant problems.
Russia would take anything and everything it could get. Probably wallachia-Moldova, Dobruja and maybe Bulgaria (or establish puppet Bulgarian state). Again probably freeing Serbia and enlarging it.
 
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OK.

Also, might Austria want to conquer Serbia for itself?
A Serbian rebellion in 1804 had evolved into a war of independence by 1807. They received Russian support until Napoleon's invasion. By this time it was too late, the serbs were unwilling to trade one master for another. If Austria was going to add the serb crown to their collection, it would have to be before the Napoleonic wars (or in a timeline where they didn't happen).
 
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A Serbian rebellion in 1804 had evolved into a war of independence by 1807. They received Russian support until Napoleon's invasion. By this time it was too late, the serbs were unwilling to trade one master for another. If Austria was going to add the serb crown to their collection, it would have to be before the Napoleonic wars (or in a timeline where they didn't happen).
Austria didn't actually need the consent of the Serbs in order to rule over them, though. It didn't need this in Bosnia in 1908 when it annexed this territory.
 
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Austria didn't actually need the consent of the Serbs in order to rule over them, though. It didn't need this in Bosnia in 1908 when it annexed this territory.
Bosnia was a mixed territory with a small population. Serbia by comparison was larger and much more rebellious. If the Austrians annexed it they wouldn't be happy (not that the Austrians would care). It would add more rebellious people to the empire. Normally this wouldn't be a big deal but Russia wouldn't stand for Austrian annexations of Serbia. They may tolerate Bosnia but not both.
 
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