An excerpt from a proto-Nazi book from 1912

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In 1912, Heinrich Class, a German politician and the president of the ultra-nationalist and extremist Pan-German League, wrote a book titled "If I Were the Kaiser." Here is an excerpt from this book (in English, of course):

http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/pdf/eng/523_Shades of the Future_104.pdf

Basically, what I find extremely interesting about this excerpt of this book is that its anti-Semitism and demands for German Lebensraum are very similar to the views of the Nazis in regards to this. Indeed, the main distinction between Class and the Nazis is that Class advocated having Germany acquire Lebensraum in the Southeast while the Nazis advocated having Germany acquire Lebensraum in the East.

Anyway, any thoughts on this book and on this specific excerpt from this book?
 

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Also, if anyone here knows of additional proto-Nazi documents (especially from before the start of World War I), then please let us know and share these documents with us! :) After all, while I certainly consider the Nazis to be vile scum, it is nevertheless interesting to see how and from where the Nazis' ideas and beliefs originated from.
 

johnincornwall

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You have to put a little context in this. 'Anti-semitism' or any kind of racism wasn't, even then, the taboo it is today, when we are mostly, I think, much more enlightened.

Not long before this book the Tsar's cossacks were attacking jews and they were expelled from Russia, eventually. Britain and America gave them a home, in slums.

Pre-nazi yes, but maybe just a man of his time. I'm not sure the Kaiser himself was a leading egalitarian democrat.
 

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You have to put a little context in this. 'Anti-semitism' or any kind of racism wasn't, even then, the taboo it is today, when we are mostly, I think, much more enlightened.
Yes, this is unfortunately very much correct! :( After all, African-Americans were still unfortunately discriminated against here in the U.S. (especially in the less industrialized Southern U.S.) during this time. :(

Not long before this book the Tsar's cossacks were attacking jews and they were expelled from Russia, eventually. Britain and America gave them a home, in slums.
Yes, but Russia was a more backwards country than Germany was during this time. Indeed, if I would have been a European Jew in 1913, then I would think that Russia, rather than Germany, would have been the country which would have tried killing European Jews en masse (if there would have been any country which would actually be willing to try doing this, that is). Thus, anti-Semitic sentiments in an industrialized country are more surprising than anti-Semitic sentiments in a more agrarian, rural country.

Pre-nazi yes, but maybe just a man of his time. I'm not sure the Kaiser himself was a leading egalitarian democrat.
First of all, I said "proto-Nazi," not "pre-Nazi."

Also, though, unlike the German Kaiser (at least before 1917-1918), Heinrich Class advocated having Germany acquire Lebensraum as early as 1912:

"But if any state has cause to look to the expansion of its sphere of power, it is the German
Reich, for the size of its population is growing rapidly, its industry needs new markets, its overall
economy needs land to produce tropical and semi-tropical products of every kind, the
procurement of which has today brought us into intolerable dependence on others; let me
mention only cotton. [ . . . ]

One must bear in mind, though, that the purposes of land acquisition abroad are manifold,
depending on the economic and national needs they are meant to serve: we need industrial
markets and land for industrial raw materials, and we need them now and under any
circumstances – but also land for the settlement of Germans, for whom the Fatherland will have
no more room one day because of overpopulation. But that land must be acquired, developed,
and secured today, even if it will experience a larger influx only in twenty or thirty years, for it is
not possible to set up a colony to absorb larger groups of immigrants from one day to the next,
and until such time as it will be needed for this, it can and will already serve the other purposes.
[ . . . ]

One can thus say that since Bismarck’s departure, a complete change has taken place in our
public opinion; talk about German “satiety” is no longer valid; developments and need have
shown that we have become hungry again, hungry for land, and this confronts German
statecraft with tasks that go beyond Bismarck. [ . . . ]"

...

After what was said earlier about the falseness of the slogan about the “satiated state” of the
German Reich, it will come as no surprise if it is stated here unambiguously that the portion of
the surface of the world that is today under German dominion is not adequate for the needs of
the German people. Whether the other states approve or disapprove of this must leave us cold;
let them know it and make their decision in good time whether they prefer to provide us in good
or ill with what we need: land. [ . . . ]"

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Also, as a "bonus," Heinrich Glass appears to blame the Jews for the rise of "internationalist" Socialism (which is something that he, like Adolf Hitler, detested) in both Germany and Austria(-Hungary):

"Whoever wants to gain the proper position on the Socialist danger to the Reich must be very
clear that the mass poisoning of German voters would not have been possible at all without the
participation of the Jews, that the true leaders are Jews, and that those with whom the hopes of
improvement rest also belong to this people; under Jewish leadership, the “German” Social
Democrats, like the Austrian ones, are serious about their internationalism, whereas the French,
Italian, and Czech Socialists, for example, have no such thoughts. [ . . . ]"

Indeed, lovely, just lovely (obvious sarcasm)! :( After all, this is an obvious precursor to the Nazis' belief in both "Judeo-Bolshevism" and Jewish-supported "internationalism." :(
 
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It goes back to LUTHER he was the one who got the idea of 'gettos' to keep the Jews where you could keep track of em! It was the Biblical usury laws that led to modern anti-jewish positions. They were the only ones allowed to lend money so of course they became unpopular! Everybody OWED them!
 

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It goes back to LUTHER he was the one who got the idea of 'gettos' to keep the Jews where you could keep track of em! It was the Biblical usury laws that led to modern anti-jewish positions. They were the only ones allowed to lend money so of course they became unpopular! Everybody OWED them!
Did Luther blame the Jews for socialism and/or argue that ethnic Germans needed to acquire Lebensraum, though?
 
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It goes back to LUTHER he was the one who got the idea of 'gettos' to keep the Jews where you could keep track of em! It was the Biblical usury laws that led to modern anti-jewish positions. They were the only ones allowed to lend money so of course they became unpopular! Everybody OWED them!


Jews lived in Ghettos in all medieval Western Christian countries.
 

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In 1912, Heinrich Class, a German politician and the president of the ultra-nationalist and extremist Pan-German League, wrote a book titled "If I Were the Kaiser." Here is an excerpt from this book (in English, of course):

http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/pdf/eng/523_Shades%20of%20the%20Future_104.pdf

Basically, what I find extremely interesting about this excerpt of this book is that its anti-Semitism and demands for German Lebensraum are very similar to the views of the Nazis in regards to this. Indeed, the main distinction between Class and the Nazis is that Class advocated having Germany acquire Lebensraum in the Southeast while the Nazis advocated having Germany acquire Lebensraum in the East.

Anyway, any thoughts on this book and on this specific excerpt from this book?
Also, though, it is certainly extremely interesting that the author of this book lived long enough to see the Holocaust and Germany's defeat in World War II. Indeed, I wonder what exactly he thought about all of this; after all, Adolf Hitler and the Nazis simply appear to have taken his ideas to the(ir) utmost extreme. :(