Ancient romans had fallen in love with greeks

Aug 2010
15,736
Welsh Marches
#3
It is certainly true that educated Romans fell in love with Greek culture; they could be pretty scornful on the other hand about the 'Graeculi' themselves, apparently regarding many of them as being decadent and effeminate.
 

specul8

Ad Honorem
Oct 2016
3,052
Australia
#4
Ancient romans had fallen in love with green.
Greeks or green ?

There were many things Romans disdained about Greeks . . . . and green .

But also, in other ways (like being 'ancient' and 'retro fashionable' ) there were things they liked and adopted from Greeks ..... and green .

Or . sometimes both Greek and green .... like a Greek salad .
 

Scaeva

Ad Honorem
Oct 2012
5,481
#5
It is certainly true that educated Romans fell in love with Greek culture; they could be pretty scornful on the other hand about the 'Graeculi' themselves, apparently regarding many of them as being decadent and effeminate.
During the Macedonian Wars and the Achaean War, the Romans ravaged much of Greece, rapaciously plundering the region, utterly annihilating the great city of Corinth as thoroughly as they had Carthage, enslaving the conquered by the thousands, and leaving whole sections of Greece a depopulated wasteland. Some of those regions had yet to fully recover even in Cicero's day.

*Some* Romans could be Grecophiles, but I'd agree we should be careful not to make too much of that. They could also be scornful of them, as you noted, and quite brutal when they faced against them in war.
 
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Apr 2017
38
malta
#7
Greeks or green ?

There were many things Romans disdained about Greeks . . . . and green .

But also, in other ways (like being 'ancient' and 'retro fashionable' ) there were things they liked and adopted from Greeks ..... and green .

Or . sometimes both Greek and green .... like a Greek salad .
Greeks ....
 
Sep 2017
109
Pennsylvania
#10
Conquered greece took captive savage conqueror and brought her arts into rustic latium
I've heard it said, in the 1883 edition of Epistles, translated by Lonsdale and Lee that:

"Horace's Epistles may be said to be a continuation of his Satires in the form of letters..."

An important bit of context that is usually ignored when referencing the line in relation to the "Hellenization" of Rome.
 

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