Are all Gods anthropomorphic?

Ficino

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Apr 2012
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#81
This thread has derailed to the discussions of Christian apologetics, and from this, we know that even Judaism has a murky origin.
Why only relatively "primitive" or "animistic" beliefs have animal gods?
"This thread has derailed to the discussions of Christian apologetics" because someone replied to a doubtful (not to say baseless) attempt to Biblical criticism (did you actually read the references and weighted them against the claims?) and answered a post so insightful and bright as to call the summit of the Divine Love for man "sacrifice of sadism"?!!!

What do you understand by "having animal gods", to depict/represent the gods in animal form or to worship animals as gods? The former might be (and often is) purely symbolic, the latter (including the worship of human animality) is specific to some of the most decayed kinds of beliefs and practices.
 
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Oct 2013
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Planet Nine, Oregon
#83
Animals are excellent embodiments of the forces of wild nature, unlike sanitized and human-friendly fantasies. Believe what you will, but the forces of nature always seem to win in the end.
 

Ficino

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#84
Animals are excellent embodiments of the forces of wild nature, unlike sanitized and human-friendly fantasies. Believe what you will, but the forces of nature always seem to win in the end.
I don't know to what forces of wild nature do you refer, but the Holy Writ says "Then God blessed them, and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.'" (Genesis 1:28), and further "The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered." (Genesis 9:2) To worship a creature lower than man and delivered into his hand instead of worshiping God Almighty, the Maker "of all things visible and invisible", if not a sign of primitive ignorance is a sign of imbecility.
 
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Oct 2013
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Planet Nine, Oregon
#85
I don't know to what forces of wild nature do you refer, but the Holy Writ says "Then God blessed them, and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.'" (Genesis 1:28), and further "The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered." (Genesis 9:2) To worship a creature lower than human and delivered into his hand instead of worshiping God Almighty, the Maker "of all things visible and invisible", if not a sign of primitive ignorance is a sign of imbecility.
Well, I don't believe we have a right to dominion over the rest of the creatures on the planet --we depend on them to survive, and we are lousy custodians of the planet. It sounds like a plea to be more than animal --something divine, a fantasy. In the end we die the same way as other animals, as we are made of the same stuff. Horrible tragedies happen all of the time --kids coming back from church camps are killed in accidents, people trip and break hips, etc. The truth is, there is no god that wants everything to be great with us --to live the lives we want, there HAS to be suffering and death. Not that religions haven't played a function in the human experience, and many find hope and meaning and better themselves through some religions.
 

VHS

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#86
I don't know to what forces of wild nature do you refer, but the Holy Writ says "Then God blessed them, and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.'" (Genesis 1:28), and further "The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered." (Genesis 9:2) To worship a creature lower than human and delivered into his hand instead of worshiping God Almighty, the Maker "of all things visible and invisible", if not a sign of primitive ignorance is a sign of imbecility.
Many people worshipped the Sun, the day-star, and it is the most important natural force we have known; the whole biosphere will not exist without the Sun.
Placing an unknowable, mysterious entity above humans will not help our understanding at all.
 
Oct 2013
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Planet Nine, Oregon
#87
Many people worshipped the Sun, the day-star, and it is the most important natural force we have known; the whole biosphere will not exist without the Sun.
Placing an unknowable, mysterious entity above humans will not help our understanding at all.
Especially one that looks human, and then escaped into everyone's hearts after rising from the dead. We like a god like a strong comforting in-charge human father, who is safe from death and somehow saves us from it, and prepares a happy ape wonderland for us! What could be better or.. more human? :neutral:

 

Ficino

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Apr 2012
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#89
Well, I don't believe we have a right to dominion over the rest of the creatures on the planet --we depend on them to survive, and we are lousy custodians of the planet. It sounds like a plea to be more than animal --something divine, a fantasy. In the end we die the same way as other animals, as we are made of the same stuff. Horrible tragedies happen all of the time --kids coming back from church camps are killed in accidents, people trip and break hips, etc. The truth is, there is no god that wants everything to be great with us --to live the lives we want, there HAS to be suffering and death. Not that religions haven't played a function in the human experience, and many find hope and meaning and better themselves through some religions.
Having the dominion over something doesn't necessarily mean to bring it harm, it can very well mean to bring it good. As far as I know, in his actual condition, man is corruptible and mortal, so I find nothing strange in the fact that things like those that you mention are happening. About what God wants, the Lord Himself said "not as I will, but as You will" (Matthew 26:39). What God wills is always better than what we will, and those who are in a certain state of sanctity have their will entirely subjected to God's.
 

Ficino

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Apr 2012
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#90
Many people worshipped the Sun, the day-star, and it is the most important natural force we have known; the whole biosphere will not exist without the Sun.
Placing an unknowable, mysterious entity above humans will not help our understanding at all.
People who worshiped the Sun regarded it as a Living and Intelligent being who providentially cares for everything coming out from and subjected to its Mighty power, they didn't worship "natural forces".
 
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