Are Europeans less innovative than Americans since WW2?

Feb 2015
111
south Slavic guy
#62
For most of my life as do most of my family.

Others live in the Netherlands ---- I do not regonise the world you describe.
What you do not recognize? Have you not seen the change in the demographics? Only for the last 2-3 years?
I think only a blind man can claim otherwise. (That it has been the same all this time)
 
May 2016
277
Greater Manchester
#63
Maybe the WWW is British, but all the other mentioned stuffs are nothing more than just jingoist bluff. You can check them in very well referenced Wiki pages.
Nope. The British invented the World Wide Web, the computer, photography, the computer mouse, railways, the jet engine, the telephone and television. These are all well-known and well-established facts.

Another fact is that it was the British, not the Americans, who invented the plane (Percy Pilcher). The British, not the Germans, invented the car. The British invented the electric light bulb, the radio (David E. Hughes) and the guillotine.

Britain invented the modern world. Almost all of the major inventions of the last 200 years are been British.

The British invented the reflecting telescope, the seed drill, the marine chronometer, the toothbrush, motorway cats' eyes, the tin can, the lawnmower, the cardiac pacemaker, the chocolate bar, soda water, the hydraulic press, the steam engine, synthetic dye, linoleum, plastic, the microwave oven, the modern sewage system, the torpedo, the electric telegraph, the pneumatic tyre, the safety bicycle, the thermos flask, the steam turbine, disc brakes, the pneumatic tyre, the electric vacuum cleaner, the hovercraft, carbon fibre, the ATM, inoculation, the modern fire extinguisher, the collapsing baby buggy, the hip replacement, tarmac, the tractor, the postage stamp, the Christmas card, the Valentine's card, shorthand, the pencil, the atomic clock, fine porcelain, bone china, polyester, the magnifying glass, the flushing toilet, the corkscrew, the rubber band, the folding carton, the dishwasher, the lava lamp, the mini skirt, the lightswitch, the mousetrap, the electric kettle, surgical forceps, general anaesthetic, the shrapnel shell, the safety fuse, cordite, Dreadnought battleships, fighter aircraft, the tank, radar, the jump jet, the tuning fork, the concertina, the mathematical "x" (multiplication) and "=" (equals) signs, the slide rule, calculus, the weather map, football, rugby, cricket, golf, tennis, hockey, snooker, baseball, ice hockey, the modern Olympics, the Paralympics, rock climbing, table tennis, bungee jumping, darts, the seat belt, traffic lights, the diving bell, the sextant, the lifeboat, the music festival, the Boy Scouts, the circus, the jigsaw puzzle, the police, plasticine, the umbrella, the crossword puzzle and toy building bricks.
 
Jun 2015
5,575
UK
#65
OP's conclusions are false.

Many of the top computers, Internet technologies and protocols, software, and the games industry, have been European in form. ICT PERIOD is European. Was Bletchley Park in the US? Was Turing an american? During the 8-bit and 16-bit eras, the UK had many top software houses, which created games for the Sega, Nintendo, and Commodore computer range.
 
Nov 2017
866
Győr
#66
Nope. The British invented the World Wide Web, the computer, photography, the computer mouse, railways, the jet engine, the telephone and television.
Britain invented the modern world. Almost all of the major inventions of the last 200 years are been British.

See the computer article on wiki.

Railways are older the the British nation. Rail transport - Wikipedia

Or do you mean steam engine hauled railways?

The first successful photography technology was invented by a Frenchman. Photography: Photography - Wikipedia

Jet Engine? Frank Whittle did not invent the jet engine. History of the jet engine - Wikipedia

Telephone: Bell did not invent the telephone. Telephone did not exist until the invention of the telephone-exchange and switch-boards.
Although telephones devices were in use before the invention of the telephone exchange, their success and economical operation would have been impossible with the schema and structure of the contemporary telegraph systems.

Prior to the invention of the telephone switchboard, pairs of telephones were connected directly with each other, which was primarily useful for connecting a home to the owner's business (They practically functioned as an intercom).[11]

But even the telephone device was not invented by Bell. History of the telephone - Wikipedia

Electronic Tv and first patent for workable TV system (Camera TV and radio system) was invented by Hungarian Kálmán Tihanyi before J. Logie Baird invented his mechanical TV.

These are all well-known and well-established facts.
They are well known and well-established "facts" only for those people, who usually don't spend time to check the reality. (The lack of critical thinking)



Another fact is that it was the British, not the Americans, who invented the plane (Percy Pilcher). The British, not the Germans, invented the car. The British invented the electric light bulb, the radio (David E. Hughes) and the guillotine.
Laughable Engine powered hop / jumping machines were built by many French and German inventors before the Wright brothers. Read about them: Claims to the first powered flight - Wikipedia
however they were not real flights just jumps, since they were unable to contol their machines. Later also Pilcher also built his jumping/hop machine. So what?

The first internal combusion engine powered vehicle with liquid fuel was Austrian: read this article: History of the automobile - Wikipedia

The light bulb? The invention of light bulb is very confusing and debateable. Incandescent light bulb - Wikipedia

Tungsten fillament bulbs with inert gas were produced first surely in Hungary.

The radio: Popov or Marconi built the first devices which were good for communication. History of radio - Wikipedia

The guillotine: Are you proud of it? It sounds sadistic



The British invented the reflecting telescope
Really? I don't believe it.
Reflecting telescope - Wikipedia

, the seed drill,
Wrong. Read: Seed drill - Wikipedia


the marine chronometer
Wrong again. Marine chronometer - Wikipedia

the toothbrush
Wrong again: Toothbrush - Wikipedia


motorway cats' eyes
It is really British

, the tin can,
Wrong. [/quote]
the lawnmower,
Very "important" British invention

the cardiac pacemaker
Wrong. Inventor: Canadian John Hopps


the chocolate bar
Wrong. Very "important" French invention.
Chocolate bar - Wikipedia

soda water,[/qoute]
Ányos jedlik, the inventor of electric motor created the first consumable soda water making process, he was the first who could maximize the CO2 in water.

the hydraulic press
,
British built the first, but he followed Pascal's invention and publication.
the steam engine
Steam Engine had a long history since ancient era. History of the steam engine - Wikipedia
Maybe French Denis Papin made the first steam piston engine.

to be continued...
 
May 2016
277
Greater Manchester
#67
See the computer article on wiki.

Railways are older the the British nation. Rail transport - Wikipedia
Rather famously, of course, despite your best attempts at arguing the contrary, rather like arguing that the Sun doesn't exist, Britain invented the railways - it's a well-known fact.





Jet Engine? Frank Whittle did not invent the jet engine. History of the jet engine - Wikipedia
I'm sure Frank would have been been very surprised to have discovered he didn't actually invent the thing he famously invented.
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Telephone: Bell did not invent the telephone.
Now don't be silly.





Electronic Tv and first patent for workable TV system (Camera TV and radio system) was invented by Hungarian Kálmán Tihanyi before J. Logie Baird invented his mechanical TV.
John Logie Baird invented the TV.


They are well known and well-established "facts" only for those people, who usually don't spend time to check the reality. (The lack of critical thinking)
Now you're just being silly again.





Laughable Engine powered hop / jumping machines were built by many French and German inventors before the Wright brothers. Read about them: Claims to the first powered flight - Wikipedia
however they were not real flights just jumps, since they were unable to contol their machines. Later also Pilcher also built his jumping/hop machine. So what?
Percy Pilcher.

Brit Percy Pilcher designed a powered triplane and built it in 1899. By the last day of September 1899, Pilcher's powered triplane was very nearly ready for flight (save, apparently, for mounting the engine), but on that day Pilcher was gliding in his "Hawk." His previously reliable "Hawk" suffered a structural failure, fell, and Pilcher died two days later. Pilcher's powered triplane was never flown. But the “invention” beat the Americans by 4 years.

Or maybe it was Bill Frost a Welsh carpenter who patented the aeroplane in 1894 and took to the skies in a powered flying machine the following year (8 years before the Wright brothers)

The first internal combusion engine powered vehicle with liquid fuel was Austrian: read this article: History of the automobile - Wikipedia
Definitely a British invention.

The light bulb? The invention of light bulb is very confusing and debateable. Incandescent light bulb - Wikipedia
Let's end the confusion and debate.

Sir Joseph Swan of Newcastle announced that he had made a working light bulb on 18 December 1878 and on 18 January 1879 he gave a public demonstration in Sunderland – 10 months before Edison. The Americans say it was just a working model and not a commercial reality … but then they would say that, wouldn’t they?

The radio: Popov or Marconi built the first devices which were good for communication. History of radio - Wikipedia
David Edward Hughes, (D.E.Hughes), of Corwen (Denbighshire) – is recorded as the Welshman who became the first person in the world to transmit and receive radio waves. Evans, resident of North Wales, designed the synchronous type-printing telegraph in 1856. Yet another British first.



The guillotine: Are you proud of it? It sounds sadistic
The people of Halifax, the Yorkshire town where it was invented, are certainly proud of it: they've got a model of one on display in the town centre.






Well if you don't believe it the read the article in the link you provided. It rightly says it was invented by Isaac Newton.

Yep. Jethro Tull.



Invented by the great John Harrison, as the article clearly says.

William Addis, as the article says.

It is really British.
Course it is. Most things are.





Wrong. Inventor: Canadian John Hopps

In 1889, John Alexander MacWilliamreported in the British Medical Journal(BMJ) of his experiments in which application of an electrical impulse to the human heart in asystole caused a ventricular contraction and that a heart rhythm of 60–70 beats per minute could be evoked by impulses applied at spacings equal to 60–70/minute.[28]

In 1926, Mark C Lidwill (a Briton)of the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital of Sydney, supported by physicist Edgar H. Booth of the University of Sydney, devised a portable apparatus which "plugged into a lighting point" and in which "One pole was applied to a skin pad soaked in strong salt solution" while the other pole "consisted of a needle insulated except at its point, and was plunged into the appropriate cardiac chamber". "The pacemaker rate was variable from about 80 to 120 pulses per minute, and likewise the voltage variable from 1.5 to 120 volts". In 1928, the apparatus was used to revive a stillborn infant at Crown Street Women's Hospital, Sydney whose heart continued "to beat on its own accord", "at the end of 10 minutes" of stimulation.[29][30]


Wrong. Very "important" French invention.
Chocolate bar - Wikipedia
Well as it says in the article:

The first solid chocolate bar was produced by Fry's of Bristol, England in 1847, which was then mass-produced as Fry's Chocolate Cream in 1866.[2][/Quote]
 
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May 2016
277
Greater Manchester
#68
Ányos jedlik, the inventor of electric motor created the first consumable soda water making process, he was the first who could maximize the CO2 in water.
Invented by Joseph Priestley - that clever fellow who also discovered oxygen.
 
Nov 2017
866
Győr
#69
Desperated nationalist Blah Blah with direct lies
"Now don't be silly. " or "because he invented, just because I said" "because everybody knows it" these are not arguments and proofs, they are just so-called fallacies.

You couldn't prove anything, you directly neglect all the earlier mentioned non-British origin inventors in Wiki pages (with good references)
So I would like to be gentle, but I can not call that otherwise: Your activity is called as direct lie. Direct and obvious lie, because everybody (forum readers) can open the wiki links and read the related articles.
I can not say anything. Don't you feel the shame?
 
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