Atia mosque of Bangladesh.

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What is a "Pure Afghan Architecture style"? Do you have an example from Afghanistan?
Afghanistan as a whole is a diverse country so architecture style varies in different regions. i guess tombs of Abdali kings shows somewhat standard Afghan style ? i am not sure.
 
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Eww...
You are related to that mass murderer bigot.
His only achievement is destruction of India.
how was he a mass murderer or bigot ?
he was a brave and genius general that conquered North India all the way till bay of Bengal. spreading Islam to the Bengal region was one of his main achievement.
 

M.S. Islam

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the bengali architecture of sultanate period itself maybe of a local variety from a specific south bengal region because we dont see that in the ahom architecture.

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Later Hindu temples adopted same architectural style:
Kantajew Temple - Wikipedia

What do you make of it? Common local influence for both mosques and temples? Or, Muslim influence on Hindu temples?
 

M.S. Islam

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can you share any example of Khilji era architectureof Bengal Kingdom as I have relationship with Khalji tribe.
Though there were lots of mosques and madrassahs built during Khilji era, I am not aware of any surviving structures.
 
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Later Hindu temples adopted same architectural style:
Kantajew Temple - Wikipedia

What do you make of it? Common local influence for both mosques and temples? Or, Muslim influence on Hindu temples?
i think that these temples are most probably a continuation of pre islamic architecture which dont survive, obviously there might be periodic innovations which them seem similar to indo islamic but it doesnt mean the innovation is foreign and not local. It has been proposed that they are influenced by islamic architecture which i think is purely BS, the entire assumption is based on pilar vaults, pointed arches etc, if you just see temples at bagan, myanmar, they extensively employ pointed arches, vaults etc, which can also be observed in gupta era hindu temples.

take example of this bengali temple entrance design with a square panels surrounding the arch

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this exact same design can be observed at one rock cut cave temple entrance from south india 1st-2nd century AD

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kandal

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That's sad, Khiljis were some of the best Sultans that ruled Subcontinent.
According to who - Afghans or Indians?
Indians consider all Muslim invaders of the subcontinent as predators, and their descendants parasites who stayed on to protect the loot. They were the termites who did their best to harm Indian people and society.
 
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According to who - Afghans or Indians?
Indians consider all Muslim invaders of the subcontinent as predators, and their descendants parasites who stayed on to protect the loot. They were the termites who did their best to harm Indian people and society.
only declared by hindutva nationalists, and also colonial propaganda against muslims.

muslim period esp the mughals was considered the golden age of india, have you tried reading some of the colonial assertions, esp the declining indian wealth and feudalism in pre islamic era, how india was becoming extensively rural and losing its urbanization? the urbanization of mughal period was 15% in india and was considered higher than even europe, that urbanization declined even during the british era.

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only declared by hindutva nationalists, and also colonial propaganda against muslims.

muslim period esp the mughals was considered the golden age of india, have you tried reading some of the colonial assertions, esp the declining indian wealth and feudalism in pre islamic era, how india was becoming extensively rural and losing its urbanization? the urbanization of mughal period was 15% in india and was considered higher than even europe, that urbanization declined even during the british era.

regards

Most of the muslims of the subcontinent suffer from Stockholm syndrome that's why they can't understand why Indian actually despise Islamic rule. It's not matter of 'religion' at all. For Indian people religion has always been personal matter and it's disheartening when every cultural aspect of the subcontinent is branded as 'religious' and subjugated on false ground. Hindus were and still are totally fine with people worshipping whichever God they want and they also show respect towards symbols of other religions. That's why so many sects survived here and a few of them also took exile here.
The problem arises when this religious tolerance becomes one way road for us.
When certain religions declare supremacy of their 'faith' and try to proselytize in both direct and covert manner. When every mark of our culture is branded as 'haram'. When our customs are declared 'jahiliya'. When people refuse to assimilate. When people start wearing their religion on their head and stop following rule of the land.
Our places of worship were demolished. Most important of all when our large universities and other educational institutes(which were matter of pride for us) were eradicated. When our valuable manuscripts were burnt and smuggled. When our scholars were chopped off on the name of ONE TRUE GOD.
Mughal imposed a foreign ideology and a foreign language on us. Which gave cognitive dissonance to the native people of the subcontinent. Mughal era resulted in cessation of Indian intellectual pursuits in the subcontinent. Indian maths, astronomy, philosophy, drama, poetry sanskrit language etc stopped developing (only survived in South and Kashmir).
Most of Islamic kings showed apathy towards this land's culture and people(unless they converted).
Only muslim kings/intellectuals who ever showed intrest towards learning about this culture can be counted on the fingers. A few of them had horrible fate because of their 'un-Islamic' act.
Most important of them all the religion Islam itself which is anti-thesis of Hindu idea of 'God', was imposed on us. From the liberty of 'seeking'/'introspecting'/'rejecting'/'understanding'/'seeing'/'assimilating' to 'believing' (that too in a foreign ideology and you can't criticize it).
Culture is the symbol of spiritual immortality of a 'race' and for us this invasion was a blow on the vital points.
 
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Most of the muslims of the subcontinent suffer from Stockholm syndrome that's why they can't understand why Indian actually despise Islamic rule. It's not matter of 'religion' at all. For Indian people religion has always been personal matter and it's disheartening when every cultural aspect of the subcontinent is branded as 'religious' and subjugated on false ground. Hindus were and still are totally fine with people worshipping whichever God they want and they also show respect towards symbols of other religions. That's why so many sects survived here and a few of them also took exile here.
The problem arises when this religious tolerance becomes one way road for us.
When certain religions declare supremacy of their 'faith' and try to proselytize in both direct and covert manner. When every mark of our culture is branded as 'haram'. When our customs are declared 'jahiliya'. When people refuse to assimilate. When people start wearing their religion on their head and stop following rule of the land.
Our places of worship were demolished. Most important of all when our large universities and other educational institutes(which were matter of pride for us) were eradicated. When our valuable manuscripts were burnt and smuggled. When our scholars were chopped off on the name of ONE TRUE GOD.
Mughal imposed a foreign ideology and a foreign language on us. Which gave cognitive dissonance to the native people of the subcontinent. Mughal era resulted in cessation of Indian intellectual pursuits in the subcontinent. Indian maths, astronomy, philosophy, drama, poetry sanskrit language etc stopped developing (only survived in South and Kashmir).
Most of Islamic kings showed apathy towards this land's culture and people(unless they converted).
Only muslim kings/intellectuals who ever showed intrest towards learning about this culture can be counted on the fingers. A few of them had horrible fate because of their 'un-Islamic' act.
Most important of them all the religion Islam itself which is anti-thesis of Hindu idea of 'God', was imposed on us. From the liberty of 'seeking'/'introspecting'/'rejecting'/'understanding'/'seeing'/'assimilating' to 'believing' (that too in a foreign ideology and you can't criticize it).
Culture is the symbol of spiritual immortality of a 'race' and for us this invasion was a blow on the vital points.
you dont know the ABCD of muslim rule, kings such as Muhammad Tughlaq knew sanskrit, mir khusro also did poetry in kharboli, during mughal rule entire mahabharata and ramayana were translated into persian with illustrations, in later mughal period, hindustani infact replaced the persian and imposition of persian was done by the turkic rulers in the first place, whose native tongue was turkic not persian, its not like non muslim and non foreign rulers didn't love persian, the sikh empire also declared persian as their court languages, urdu also replaced persian in the deccan as well, modi ji also tries to impose hindustani in south india, sanskrit/ a north indian language also ruled south india infact south east asia for quite long time, there are sanskrit words in malay languages today, they dont seem to be whining about it. turkic also was replaced in persian courts as the official and military language, and before that, arabic was also replaced as an official language, no persian is whining about that

when it comes to manuscript, university burning, try to read your own history, buddhists also blame hindus for burning their universities, chopping mahabodhi tree and burning and destroying their sutras, for hindus buddhists were infidels, and for buddhists hindus were infidels.

as i stated, the present mindset is partially due to hindu nationalism and partially due to colonial propaganda, the hindu naitonalists infact use that colonial propaganda where suitable.

the muslim rulers were no angels, came to india for economic benefits, but to propagate them as pure evils and distorting history cannot be justified.

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