Austrian foreign minister: close down med / abolish geneva convention nonsense...

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May 2016
762
Thüringen
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I fully agree with the new plan from Sebastian Kurz regarding the mediterranean route. He closed down the Balkan this spring and i´m very thankful for that.

His new plan for the mediterranean sea is perfect as well. He plans to adopt the australian model All boats will be stopped on high sea and send back. No matter what happenes, they wont make it to europe.

The ones who make it to europe themself get rounded up and placed on a remote island camp where they stay until they are transferred back.

He also says that the EU must give up that "geneva convention" nonsense since its out of time.

Kurz: Rettung aus Seenot ist kein Ticket nach Europa « DiePresse.com

Closing down at Idomeni proved sucessfull and can be the prime example how a functional solution can work.
 

Grimald

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Nov 2011
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He also says that the EU must give up that "geneva convention" nonsense since its out of time.
In principle, I agree with Kurz.

However, he did not call the Geneva Convention on Refugees "nonsense". How could he do that, as the foreign minister of Austria? No, he just said that "the regulations in this convention originate from a quite different time."
 

Grimald

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Nov 2011
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Geneva Convention?
Applies to soldiers in combat and warfare. Why scrap that unless you want to murder POWs?
This can indeed be a cause for misunderstanding. The convention pertaining to this thread is officially called Convention relating to the Status of Refugees:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1951_Refugee_Convention

The convention was approved at a United Nations conference in 1951 in Geneva. In French, it appears to be primarily known as the Convention de Genève, in German as Genfer Flüchtlingskonvention (literal translation: Geneva Refugee Convention), and in English as the 1951 Refugee Convention.

As far as I can judge, it has nothing to do with the treaties known as Geneva Conventions in English.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions
 
Apr 2013
7,365
New Verulamium
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How does he plan to enforce this in practice since implementing this policy will require an Austrian Navy, which of course does not exist, and it's unlikely that he would or could force the plan on other nation states. To what extent is there agreement that this is the thing to do.
 
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How does he plan to enforce this in practice since implementing this policy will require an Austrian Navy, which of course does not exist, and it's unlikely that he would or could force the plan on other nation states. To what extent is there agreement that this is the thing to do.
If the EU made a global plan for turning back the boats our navy would be happy to do so.
 
Mar 2010
3,660
Czechoslovakia
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It is funny to see what V4 countries say years was invented now by the politicains in west. Even more funny is the fact that the same western politicians said that thinking by this way is heresy and V4 needs to be punished for such ideas.

Spring 2016:
V4: lets close Macedonian border. (V4 summit in Prague with Bulgaria and Macedonia).
Austria and Germany: this will never happen.
A few days later: Austria: we helped to reduce the migrant flow :lol: by closing the Macedonian border.
This all becoming to be a bad joke but i am thankful as it looks the reason is finally coming slowly even to the west.
 
Feb 2016
4,342
Japan
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This can indeed be a cause for misunderstanding. The convention pertaining to this thread is officially called Convention relating to the Status of Refugees:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1951_Refugee_Convention

The convention was approved at a United Nations conference in 1951 in Geneva. In French, it appears to be primarily known as the Convention de Genève, in German as Genfer Flüchtlingskonvention (literal translation: Geneva Refugee Convention), and in English as the 1951 Refugee Convention.

As far as I can judge, it has nothing to do with the treaties known as Geneva Conventions in English.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions
I see. Cheers.
 

antocya

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May 2012
5,755
Iraq
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I think it would be a better idea if Europe made a policy of stepping up accepting legitimate refugees from camps in the Middle East reducing their burden while refusing to accept those, who often have dubious asylum claims, who arrive illegally. However actually putting this into practice would be difficult.
 
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