Back to Eden or Road to Hell ?

tomar

Ad Honoris
Jan 2011
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There are plenty of reasons for censorship, some quite egregious:
censoring for historic offensive racial terms or slurs is only one of them (though I agree it is wrong):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_censorship_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_censorship

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/16/art-censorship_n_6465010.html
Quite true... I'd actually add that it seems to be human nature to seek censorship of everything and anything that one finds inconvenient... One more reason why freedom of speech must be protected...
 

tomar

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Jan 2011
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When one looks deeper into the topic of people being fired over allegedly racist remarks, there seems to be quite a lot of them.... most for casual remarks... Perhaps one of the most ridiculous one is the one below.... A firefighter fired for "racism" because he told a black woman to stop eating fried chicken.... The firefighter is obviously racist, his wife (who testified in his favor) being black did not help a single bit....
This seems to be completely out of control in the US.

 

tomar

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Jan 2011
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A couple of more recent incidents

First a traveller on Ryan air insulting the lady sitting near him by calling her an "ugly black cow" or some such... Incident filmed on video, the lady was moved by the crew.... Outrage on social networks against Ryan air.
Though the guy behaved like an a*hole it seems he would have insulted anyone sitting near him so accusation of racism seem to be over the top

Second Megan Kelly

Megyn Kelly is exiting NBC News, sources say

The former Fox News host featured an all-white panel to discuss cultural appropriation of Halloween costumes during a taping of her daytime talk show on Tuesday. The conversation started with Kelly and guests Melissa Rivers, Jenna Bush Hager and Jacob Soboroff talking about students at a U.K. university who petitioned to ban various costumes depicting of various cultures, like Native American and Mexican culture. Kelly appeared to be baffled by the student protest and wondered aloud, “What is racist?”
“People fired up over Halloween costumes this morning, I mean truly, political correctness has gone amuck there are strict rules about what you may or may not wear issued by someone who thinks they’re the boss of you," Kelly said.
The 47-year-old went on to compare the Halloweens of her youth during the 1970s, which she claimed was a time when all costumes, including those created with blackface, was apparently appropriate.
“You do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface on Halloween, or a black person that puts on whiteface for Halloween. Back when I was a kid, that was okay, as long as you were dressing up as, like, a character,” she said.

Her comments sparked immediate outrage on social media.

The madness goes on
 
Feb 2012
3,791
Portugal
This mentality is being exported, around here some time ago there were some activists opposing the statue of a priest called António Vieira who opposed the Inquisition (and in fact was able to get it temporarily suspended in Portugal) and defended the rights of Native Brazilians on the basis that he hadn't done enough agains't the African slave trade.
 
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Feb 2012
3,791
Portugal
A couple of more recent incidents

First a traveller on Ryan air insulting the lady sitting near him by calling her an "ugly black cow" or some such... Incident filmed on video, the lady was moved by the crew.... Outrage on social networks against Ryan air.
Though the guy behaved like an a*hole it seems he would have insulted anyone sitting near him so accusation of racism seem to be over the top

Second Megan Kelly

Megyn Kelly is exiting NBC News, sources say

The former Fox News host featured an all-white panel to discuss cultural appropriation of Halloween costumes during a taping of her daytime talk show on Tuesday. The conversation started with Kelly and guests Melissa Rivers, Jenna Bush Hager and Jacob Soboroff talking about students at a U.K. university who petitioned to ban various costumes depicting of various cultures, like Native American and Mexican culture. Kelly appeared to be baffled by the student protest and wondered aloud, “What is racist?”
“People fired up over Halloween costumes this morning, I mean truly, political correctness has gone amuck there are strict rules about what you may or may not wear issued by someone who thinks they’re the boss of you," Kelly said.
The 47-year-old went on to compare the Halloweens of her youth during the 1970s, which she claimed was a time when all costumes, including those created with blackface, was apparently appropriate.
“You do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface on Halloween, or a black person that puts on whiteface for Halloween. Back when I was a kid, that was okay, as long as you were dressing up as, like, a character,” she said.

Her comments sparked immediate outrage on social media.

The madness goes on
This case looks totaly strange for a foreigner but the article below from the Guardian sugests it has some cultural implications that may not be easily understood outside of the anglosphere.
Megyn Kelly was meant to bridge the partisan divide. She failed | Barrett Holmes Pitner



BTW the previous post above was thinking this thread was about anti-racist activism taken to the extremes of unfairness and ridicule in a broader sense but looking more into the thread looks like a bit out of place, and it is not clear if these issues are wholy motivated by activism.
 

VHS

Ad Honorem
Dec 2015
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Brassicaland
Even right here, you can be permanently suspended for using inappropriate terms or tones; in the real setting, the consequences can be much more severe.
"Freedom of speech" does not mean that loose lips do not sink ships.
 

tomar

Ad Honoris
Jan 2011
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BTW the previous post above was thinking this thread was about anti-racist activism taken to the extremes of unfairness and ridicule in a broader sense but looking more into the thread looks like a bit out of place, and it is not clear if these issues are wholy motivated by activism.
It is.... but activism molds the thinking of non activists as well.... and what was once "extreme" has now become mainstream
 
Feb 2012
3,791
Portugal
It is.... but activism molds the thinking of non activists as well.... and what was once "extreme" has now become mainstream
Whether it is activists pushing the agenda too far or employers using political correctness as an excuse to sack empoyees they risk making far right groups look like the KKK in Griffith's "The Birth of a Nation" and that's bad news for anyone who likes the liberal society.
 

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