Balakot: Pakistan vows to respond after Indian 'air strikes'

Devdas

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The irony.

Modi & co want you to look at Pakistan, and forget what's happening in India. And you people are gullible enough to dance oh so precisely to their tune. Unbelievable stuff.
Pakistan is just one of the many election issues in India, Pakistan is an enemy country why Indians should forget, only a fool would believe that Pakistan is a friendly country. Indian economy is performing very well compared to 2014, prices are stable and Rupee performing well.

Besides, illegal Bangladeshis are not Indian nationals, they have no claim even on an inch of Indian land, they should live happily in the country for which they had instigated Direct Action Day. How funny you are comparing illegal occupiers with Lebensraum. Lebensraum is true for illegal Bangladeshis who first stole the land of Chakmas in CHT, drove many of them into India and now trying to create Lebensraum in neighbouring countries through illegal immigration.
 
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It's for you to explain why India did 'bother' about Rohingyas in Burma, because that's what actually took place. India supplied the Burmese regime with arms & ammunition and logistics that was used in persecuting the Rohingyas, as well as providing diplomatic cover to them so that Burmese junta can withstand international pressue and carry on with their spree of murder and eviction.

You explain why.
We are most concerned about the ethnic cleansing of Hindus and Chakmas in Bangladesh by Islamic extremists, how population of Bengali Hindus reduced from 33% to mere 8% in 70 years and Chakmas were turned into minority in CHT and driven away into India, even Khulna that had a Hindu majority has now little presence of Hindus these days. Concerns about Rohingyas comes after that.
 
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I could be wrong, but I'm kind of inclined to see this as kind of a cliche Indian narrative for Pakistan. Like, Pakistan the incurable & irrepressible India hater kind of thing.

Come on. I believe Imran Khan is better than that. That he approved & endorsed the quick release of that captured Indian pilot without condition to me says volumes about his sincere desire for peace with India. It is the Indian side that is still whipping stuff up. I mean, Imran could have given the instruction for that pilot to be detained indefinitely, only to be freed at a time of Pakistan's choosing, and with loads of conditions attached. After all, the guy was a captured enemy combatant. The advantage & bargaining power was on Khan's side.
Pakistani nationalism is groomed upon Hindu hatred, without Hinduphobia Pakistani nationalism will fall apart. Even Jinnah was a staunch Hindu hater and 'secular Jinnah' is a just Pakistani liberal propaganda. Peace is just a pipe dream. As Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto once said we will fought India for 1000 years.

Imran Khan is known as "Taliban Khan" within his own country. Pakistan had to release the Indian pilot because of Geneva Convention, not because of peace gesture. Their Hindu hatred is quite intact, they are just buying some time due to economic woes and insurgency in Pakistan-Afghanistan border region.
 
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It's for you to explain why India did 'bother' about Rohingyas in Burma, because that's what actually took place. India supplied the Burmese regime with arms & ammunition and logistics that was used in persecuting the Rohingyas, as well as providing diplomatic cover to them so that Burmese junta can withstand international pressue and carry on with their spree of murder and eviction.

You explain why.
Indian news media does not follow this matter as it of no interest to anyone. We only hear about a couple of camps of Rohingyas opened illegally in India. Funding for one was coming from abroad. In the second, some of the inmates of the camp took work as domestics in a neighbouring colony. Because of a stealing incident there was a minor skirmish, police came in, so it was noticed in press.

Quick dip in internet shows: Rohingya issue is between Burma and Bangladesh. According to Burmese Govt most Rohingyas are migrants from Bangladesh after 1982 and are not entitled to full citizenship of that country. China is the arms supplier to Burma. India has no arms trade with them.

Bangladesh should take back their nationals. Since even Bangladesh is unwilling to provide for them then why anyone else would?
 

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It is precisely & exactly because it's election season, that Modi wants to obtain mileage & score points. Showing machismo & aggression under the guise of patriotism gives him just that.
Modi does not need show any machismo or aggression against Pakistan, to win the Indian Parliamentary elections. He is winning the elections with a comfortable majority. Just wait till 23rd May 2019.
 

Devdas

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Indian news media does not follow this matter as it of no interest to anyone. We only hear about a couple of camps of Rohingyas opened illegally in India. Funding for one was coming from abroad. In the second, some of the inmates of the camp took work as domestics in a neighbouring colony. Because of a stealing incident there was a minor skirmish, police came in, so it was noticed in press.

Quick dip in internet shows: Rohingya issue is between Burma and Bangladesh. According to Burmese Govt most Rohingyas are migrants from Bangladesh after 1982 and are not entitled to full citizenship of that country. China is the arms supplier to Burma. India has no arms trade with them.

Bangladesh should take back their nationals. Since even Bangladesh is unwilling to provide for them then why anyone else would?
A large part of Rohingyas are illegal Bangladeshis from Chittagong region of Bangladesh, many illegally entering Myanmar after 1971 war, Rohingyas language is the Chittagongian dialect of Bengali. Bangladesh has a widespread illiteracy and family planning is seen as a taboo by Muslims, its impossible to believe that Bangladesh has a successful population reduction due to family planning. Without illegal immigration, Bangladesh's population would have been equal or greater to that of Pakistan.
 
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"India is already providing rocket launchers, mortars, rifles, radars, night-vision devices, Gypsies, bailey bridges, communication and Inmarsat sets as well as road construction equipment like dozers, tippers and soil compacters to the Myanmarese armed forces."

Source: India steps up supply of military equipment to Myanmar to counter China - Times of India
There is no mention of Rohingyas in the article you have cited. You are unable to see the issue because of sympathy for Rohingyas, which is understandable.

India & Burma:

Article is about cooperation with Burma in taking action against small militant groups who take to Maoist/Communist style killings/violence in India and go hiding in hilly-tracks which are part of Burma so that Indian Army is unable to counter them. Here is something more about these guys:

The source of arms & ammo for them is also China - most probably the market for second-hand arms being disposed by Chinese army. These militant camps in Burma are similar to Terrorist Training Camps in Pakistan. Terrorists lived in peace in Pakistan thinking they were out of reach of India. The difference between the two terrorists is only in ideology - those in Northeastern India draw inspiration from Mao / Communists while guys in Northwest India draw inspiration from Radical Islam. Otherwise actions of these people are similar.

This is an old problem in North Eastern India, more than 70 years old. It was brewing during British Rule as well (pre-1947). Now most of the problem have been sorted out. Only traces remain which are being tackled.

Rohingyas & root cause of their problem:

Rohingya Muslims, at least majority of them, not terrorists of the above type. A few of them adopted terror tactics in Burma by killing Buddhists and Hindu. This small terrorist group among Rohingyas, who thought they could rule by power of the gun, is today cause of the plight of Rohingya Muslims. Burmese have expelled all them (good apples with bad apples) and no one in the whole world wants them. All are shedding crocodile tears. Their mother country Bangladesh does not want them. Even the prosperous Muslims countries in South East Asia don't want them.

It would be better that some religious preachers go to Rohingya Muslims and teach them to live in peace in the land they were in (Burma). Then negotiations between Bangladesh-Burma need to be held assuring that these Muslims will live in peace and that there is no need to throw them out. This is the best solution.
 
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Wasn't meant to. The article was cited to dispell your notion that "India has no arms trade with them."
Since it was said that India supplied arms to Burma to fight Rohingyas, so the clarification. Here is extract from your post 597:

"India supplied the Burmese regime with arms & ammunition and logistics that was used in persecuting the Rohingyas, ...You explain why."

Burma has a strong army which is ruthless. Till few years back it was a military-ruled state. They had dozens of insurgent groups all around in their country. One hot-headed Rohingya fellow (Junini) is the cause of latest Rohingya problems. He is a Pakistani Muslim brought up in Saudi Arabia. [1] His terror outfit named as ARSA [2] was just one more addition to a long list in Burma. He attacked Burmese Army posts on Bangladesh border to secure safe hideouts in Bangladesh. He also killed 100+ Hindus in neighbourhood but denied it. The set up is bound to be liquidated - slowly, painfully - because it has taken up arms against a strong state in Burma.

Bangladesh has a working democracy and to that extent Bangladeshis are lucky. Economy is also doing well - some say even better than India. Bangladesh intellectuals need to face radical Islam squarely, which even otherwise is getting a bad name to Islam across the world. Western countries do not want Muslim immigrants and have off-the-records methods to stop them. Even Bangladesh is affected by terrorism. I have read news about half-a-dozen bloggers being killed in Bangladesh in last few years.

[1] There is some reason why Pakistan is known 'Mother of Terrorism'
[2] Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army - Wikipedia