- Nov 2008
- Melbourne, Australia
Once again, you condemn yourself with your own quotes. Marx did not theorize that socialism should involve bloodshed, merely that it be created with bloodshed. Socialism would be INAUGURATED with bloodshed, just like the French and American Revolutions. Bloodshed would not CHARACTERIZE the regime. Apparently you do not have the wit to recognize the difference.Stalinism also beared no resemblance to Marxism.
Stalin immediately stopped Lenin’s move toward limited capitalism, he suppressed Lenin’s final warning words against him (and eventually had Trotsky done away with). Did Stalinism deviate from Marx/Engels theories? Well his rule was certainly bloody putting the others into the shade, but since as Marx stated himself:
“No great movement has ever been inaugurated without bloodshed.”
He also said:
“The independence of America was won by bloodshed, Napoleon captured France through a bloody process, and he was overthrown by the same means. Italy, England, Germany, and every other country gives proof of this, and as for assassination”
So the brutal reign of the communists were in fact not deviating from Marx at all were they, he would have agreed with it? In fact attempting to put an “ism” next to the various socialist dictators names in the hope of distancing them from the Hegel/Marx/Engels theories is dishonest don’t you think? Both Lenin and Stalin have been called “state capitalists” but since the Marx/Engels theories required that how can that be deviating from them? In fact how could a state which controls the means of production as in the communist/socialist system be anything else. If my memory serves the invention of the term Leninism came from Stalin have to check that. Stalin was big into words after he was betrayed by Hitler he ordered that the word Nazi should not be used to describe the Germans as it would remind people of Hitler’s socialist origins.
Marx/Engels theories postulated that the communist/socialist system would have to go through a period of totalitarianism to emerge as a utopian society at the end. So the totalitarianism of the communist/socialist system we have witnessed does not deviate from the Marx/Engels theories but in fact fulfils them. Would they have emerged from totalitarianism into some lotus eating utopia, I doubt it very much but it does not alter the fact that historical facts of a communist/socialist totalitarian system did not deviate from Marx/Engels theories but were perfectly in line with them.
The socialist system would not "go through a phase of totalitarianism before utopia emerged". The world would go through totalitarianism before socialism was unveiled. Another distinction that you clearly cannot appreciate.