Christchurch mosque terror attack.

robto

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
6,000
Lisbon, Portugal
That is exactly the problem

Nobody blames the immigrants for immigrating. The blame lies with the morons that let them all in. If you look at France, twenty years ago there already was a problem with the banlieux (cars set on fire, small riots, criminality etc). Nothing happened to do anything about it, but somehow politiicians thought it a good idea to let more of them in.
Why are we pretending that the only immigrants coming to Western Europe came from the African continent? That's a major rhetoric that I hear on many anti-immigrant circles. Even Lauren Southern once made a stupid mistake by assuming that every non-ethnic German in Germany is non-white or African. Western European countries also received millions of migrants coming from Eastern and Southern Europe.
Many of them also face the same problems and live in bad neighborhoods as the African migrants and their offspring. In my country of origin I see Romanian migrants living in worse conditions and far less integrated than the African migrants from our former colonies.
 
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arkteia

Ad Honorem
Nov 2012
4,723
Seattle
That is exactly the problem

Nobody blames the immigrants for immigrating. The blame lies with the morons that let them all in. If you look at France, twenty years ago there already was a problem with the banlieux (cars set on fire, small riots, criminality etc). Nothing happened to do anything about it, but somehow politiicians thought it a good idea to let more of them in.
As to France, they are going to pass tougher asylum laws, it seems.
 
Apr 2018
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Mythical land.
What the, heck, Zanis?


How in the name of God (sic!) can a thing written 1500 years ago support and justify something happening today ?!?


By definition You cannot support and justify something that didn't happened yet .


We're not on a Sci-fi discussion board here.
its quite simple actually,as long as "muslims" and "non muslims" remain in existence,the command can be used to support or justify whatever was written,doesn't matter how far back it was written.
 
Oct 2013
14,308
Europix
its quite simple actually,as long as "muslims" and "non muslims" remain in existence,the command can be used to support or justify whatever was written,doesn't matter how far back it was written.
And that is a bit of a different different stance than Your previous one: yes, "the command can be used ".

A correction tho: it is not used for justify what was written, but for what is done.

No longer than 5-6 hundred years ago, Christianism was more agressive, more deadly than Islam is today. It is no longer the case.

Why? Did the Bible get modified?

No, it's exactly the same.

What changed isn't the Holly Scripture, but those believing in it. What changed is the interpretation of the Bible.
 
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Apr 2018
1,562
Mythical land.
And that is a bit of a different different stance than Your previous one: yes, "the command can be used ".

A correction tho: it is not used for justify what was written, but for what is done.

No longer than 5-6 hundred years ago, Christianism was more agressive, more deadly than Islam is today. It is no longer the case.

Why? Did the Bible get modified?

No, it's exactly the same.

What changed isn't the Holly Scripture, but those believing in it. What changed is the interpretation of the Bible.
actually only the context changed,earlier i was describing what muslims are doing right now and how its perfectly in line with what scripture commands,and how religion can(and has been used) for terrorism.

to say it in different way,just because christians today don't support killing or forced conversion of pagans doesn't mean christanity doesn't support it,or christanity was not or cannot be used for those acts,after all crusades were pretty religious(especially against the pagans).

and depends on which version of history you are talking about,cause i don't think christanity was,ever,more extreme than what islam was.
or atleast more extreme than what muslims intepreted islam to be.

islamic invasions of india are among the bloodiest of events in whole of history,which were very religious in nature when it came to persecution of hindus here,even today one of the most contetious issue of modern politics is the issue of ram temple in ayodhya(a mosque was built over,destroying a temple already present,and it doesn't help when that place is among the holiest of sites for hindus).
 
Sep 2012
3,790
Bulgaria
Why are we pretending that the only immigrants coming to Western Europe came from the African continent? That's a major rhetoric that I hear on many anti-immigrant circles. Even Lauren Southern once made a stupid mistake by assuming that every non-ethnic German in Germany is non-white or African. Western European countries also received millions of migrants coming from Eastern and Southern Europe.
Many of them also face the same problems and live in bad neighborhoods as the African migrants and their offspring. In my country of origin I see Romanian migrants living in worse conditions and far less integrated than the African migrants from our former colonies.
These migrants you mentioned are most certainly of Romanian nationality / they have Romanian passport, but they are do not belong to Romanian ethnic group, because they are Romani, less political correct word for them gypsies. One can find different representatives of this ethnic group all over European continent and because of their way of life it is impossible to integrate them in the society, for example commies in the good ole days tried hard to do that, but even they failed.
 
Oct 2013
14,308
Europix
cause i don't think christanity was,ever,more extreme than what islam was.
Really?

What languages are spoken today in India? What Is the majority's religion today in India?

No need to answer: just compare to what languages are spoken in Americas and Australia today and what religion is the main one today In Americas, in Australia, in sub-Saharian Africa....
 
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Apr 2018
1,562
Mythical land.
Really?

What languages are spoken today in India? What Is the majority's religion today in India?

Don't answer: compare to what languages are spoken in Americas and Australia today and what religion is the main one today.
yes really,besides what exactly is the point you are trying to make?
 
Oct 2013
14,308
Europix
These migrants you mentioned are most certainly of Romanian nationality / they have Romanian passport, but they are do not belong to Romanian ethnic group, because they are Romani, less political correct word for them gypsies. One can find different representatives of this ethnic group all over European continent and because of their way of life it is impossible to integrate them in the society, for example commies in the good ole days tried hard to do that, but even they failed.
Official statistics talk about some 2.5 million Romanian citizens established in Western Europe (meaning there are actually more). It's difficult to believe they're majoritary ethnic gypsy.

Also, it's slightly irrelevant, as Gypsies are an European people.
 

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