Church sex abuse caused by Woodstock

#1
Former Pope Benedict recently claimed that the current sex abuse scandal in the church was basically caused by Woodstock. This is not a new argument. About 10 (?) years ago, a report was issued, commissioned, I believe, by the Catholic Church, but with funding from the U.S. Justice Dept., making the same basic claim. Can anyone remember that report and help me retrieve it?
Thanks.
 
Jul 2017
208
Neverland
#2
Sex and religious life are intertwined from ancient times.In greek temples they had hetaeras ie prostitutes, so did the ancient jews in their temple, before being abandoned.Actually, the early Israelites(sea people - denyens-tribe of Dan)first worshipped the Canaan and Phoenicia's supreme deities- EL and Baal, hence the EL in the etnonym of.. Isra-EL The sumerians also allowed prostitution in their places of worship.

Big deal..priests and boys..greeks practiced it, so are number of muslim countries of today.
 
Aug 2010
16,202
Welsh Marches
#3
Temple prostitution was not at all common in the Greek world, and mainly (exclusively?) associated with the cult of Aphrodite as influenced by cult of similar eastern goddesses; offhand I can only think of Corinth on the mainland, Cyprus and some places in Asia Minor.

Pindar wote a poem about the Corinthian heatirai:

You girls who welcome many guests as
servants of Peitho in sumptuous Corinth,
you who burn the pale tears of green incense while
often in thought you fly
up towards the mother of
loves, Aphrodite Ourania
to you she grants that, free of reproach
and, o children, in couches of pleasure,
you are to harvest the fruit of soft youth! All things are
fine that comply with necessity.
 

Tulius

Ad Honorem
May 2016
5,539
Portugal
#4
I don’t think he mentioned Woodstock directly in his letter, you should read it, he mentions the Sexual Revolution of the 60’s, among other things, not exactly the same as “Woodstock”:

"In the first part, I aim to present briefly the wider social context of the question, without which the problem cannot be understood. I try to show that in the 1960s an egregious event occurred, on a scale unprecedented in history. It could be said that in the 20 years from 1960 to 1980, the previously normative standards regarding sexuality collapsed entirely, and a new normalcy arose that has by now been the subject of laborious attempts at disruption.

[…]

1) The matter begins with the state-prescribed and supported introduction of children and youths into the nature of sexuality. In Germany, the then-Minister of Health, Ms. (Käte) Strobel, had a film made in which everything that had previously not been allowed to be shown publicly, including sexual intercourse, was now shown for the purpose of education. What at first was only intended for the sexual education of young people consequently was widely accepted as a feasible option.

Similar effects were achieved by the "Sexkoffer" published by the Austrian government [A controversial 'suitcase' of sex education materials used in Austrian schools in the late 1980s]. Sexual and pornographic movies then became a common occurrence, to the point that they were screened at newsreel theaters [Bahnhofskinos]. I still remember seeing, as I was walking through the city of Regensburg one day, crowds of people lining up in front of a large cinema, something we had previously only seen in times of war, when some special allocation was to be hoped for. I also remember arriving in the city on Good Friday in the year 1970 and seeing all the billboards plastered up with a large poster of two completely naked people in a close embrace.

Among the freedoms that the Revolution of 1968 sought to fight for was this all-out sexual freedom, one which no longer conceded any norms.

The mental collapse was also linked to a propensity for violence. That is why sex films were no longer allowed on airplanes because violence would break out among the small community of passengers. And since the clothing of that time equally provoked aggression, school principals also made attempts at introducing school uniforms with a view to facilitating a climate of learning.

Part of the physiognomy of the Revolution of ‘68 was that pedophilia was then also diagnosed as allowed and appropriate.

For the young people in the Church, but not only for them, this was in many ways a very difficult time. I have always wondered how young people in this situation could approach the priesthood and accept it, with all its ramifications. The extensive collapse of the next generation of priests in those years and the very high number of laicizations were a consequence of all these developments.”

The all text: Full text of Benedict XVI essay: 'The Church and the scandal of sexual abuse'
 
Jul 2016
9,471
USA
#5
Its been proven that Ratzinger knew about Church sex abuses and was one of those responsible for covering it up. Thus HE IS RESPONSIBLE.

But he can't admit the Church's problems are a direct result of the cardinals running it, so he'll blame society and trends.

Because that's why priests diddled young kids, mostly boys, in record breaking numbers for over a century, while the Vatican was fully aware and acting aggressively to prevent any civil or criminal prosecution of its clergy. Because a 60s rock concert.
 

specul8

Ad Honorem
Oct 2016
3,278
Australia
#6
Thats right ... it wasnt the pedo priests nor the church covering it all up ..... it was those Goddam hippies ( again ) .... whose influence penetrated the church and caused priests to act that way .

If only the church could tell a reasonable lie ... for once !
 
Jul 2017
208
Neverland
#8
Temple prostitution was not at all common in the Greek world, and mainly (exclusively?) associated with the cult of Aphrodite as influenced by cult of similar eastern goddesses; offhand I can only think of Corinth on the mainland, Cyprus and some places in Asia Minor.

Pindar wote a poem about the Corinthian heatirai:

You girls who welcome many guests as
servants of Peitho in sumptuous Corinth,
you who burn the pale tears of green incense while
often in thought you fly
up towards the mother of
loves, Aphrodite Ourania
to you she grants that, free of reproach
and, o children, in couches of pleasure,
you are to harvest the fruit of soft youth! All things are
fine that comply with necessity.
Temple sex in ancient times is a very common component of revenues and commercial activities, particularly in the
Mediterranean world. Despite claims to the otherwise, the piece on homosexuality from the pages of Haaretz, describes
widespread practice in the First Temple of Solomon....boys and girls prostitution.

As example King David and Jonathan are given, also his grandson - Jeroboam. During Babylonian captivity, sex in temples
is frowned upon, but homosexuality is a norm in society.No more sex in places of worship - only money changing and livestock
sales allowed in the Herodian Temple.

Jesus Christ, who is allowed to preach his teachings, along with 310 of his followers,
expel the money dealers and goats, sheeps and fowl merchants from the Temple, thus causing a great loss of revenue and commerce interruption on a busy feast.
One week from this event he is dead. Lesson to be learned here...Do not stand in between jews and their money !

Judaism and homosexuality: A brief history

Ancient Greece is ripe with homosexual and sexual activities in temples and their society.Homosexual soldiers in the Theban army,
the practice of "kidnapping" of young boys with their fathers permission, to be taken away for 2 months for "education" in the countryside by older men with fat wallets.After the 2 months period gifts are lavished on the lucky boys.

HOMOSEXUALITY IN ANCIENT GREECE | Facts and Details

Alexander, his father and prominent greeks have homosexual affairs. To spice things up, greek Gods practice homosexuality too.
And then we have the ancient Olypmpics, where a heterae can earn in 5 days span the income for a whole year.Winners from the games don't have to work a single day, but serve wealthy clientele afterwards. Sex and homosexuality in the open air in between games.

52 Queer Gods Who Ruled Ancient History

So, sex and religion mix quite well, from antiquity till present day. Take Henry VIII from England - won't get divorce granted from
the Vatican, he establishes his own religion. Just in the footsteps of other heresies, as defined by Vatican and Easthern Orthodoxy
- Gnosticism, which is founded by Christian Jewish sects. Then Manicheism, started by jewish person Mani - son of jewish Christian sectarians from Persia.

From then on we have Paulicans from Armenia and the Bogomils( dear to God) in Eastern Europe, who spread thruout Europe, only to influence the first Protestant movements later on, through the Cathars of France. At least 500K Cathars are killed there by the Albigensian crusade

Catharism - Wikipedia

Case in point...If religion stands in the way of Good Times, start your own !
 
Nov 2010
7,645
Cornwall
#9
Rather a stupid statement I thought. Just bearing in mind what we have learned about some of these places in the 40s and 50s should have opened his eyes a bit to the past. Maybe not.
 

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