Could the Axis Powers conquer the Americas if they had already conquered the world?

Sep 2018
22
Sri Lanka
#1
No more China, no more UK, no more India, no more Australia, Africa, Middle East; the entire world is now under German, Russian, Japanese and Italian control..... except for North, Central and South America, could the Axis Powers eventually defeat it and usher in 1000 years of peace and prosperity?

Since most of the world's resources are now controlled by them, can they easily win the war too?
 
Oct 2016
797
Merryland
#2
logistics make it unlikely.
theoretically could have nuked the Americas into oblivion.

wild card; many Latin Americans, especially in Argentina, Chile and Brazil, were from Axis countries, or sympathetic. wild speculation, one or more of those countries could have joined the Axis and been used as a staging area for an ultimate invasion of the USA.

not enjoying the scenario of Nazi masterminds with ten years to manufacture weapons and a horde of Slavic slave soldier with Wehrmacht officers.
 
Jun 2017
2,235
Connecticut
#4
No more China, no more UK, no more India, no more Australia, Africa, Middle East; the entire world is now under German, Russian, Japanese and Italian control..... except for North, Central and South America, could the Axis Powers eventually defeat it and usher in 1000 years of peace and prosperity?

Since most of the world's resources are now controlled by them, can they easily win the war too?
No, because of geography, a massive naval disadvantage and because of the US's nuclear arsenal which would be in play at this time, Germany conquering the US is as close to a sure impossible scenario as I've seen relating to this period. This is not even factoring that the US still has the numbers advantage and it's not like Hitler's massive new empire meant he'd close that gap because of his racist beliefs where he'd end up exterminating the conquered people's rather than assimilating them. There is nothing the Germans can do to subdue the US and Canada and probably next to nothing they could do to subdue their southern neighbors. US federalism also means you can't just disable a key part of the US, and expect the rest to panic and give up like they tried to do in the USSR, federalism means someone invading the US would have to individually take out 48 previously set up smaller governments.
 
Oct 2018
53
Minneapolis, MN
#5
No more China, no more UK, no more India, no more Australia, Africa, Middle East; the entire world is now under German, Russian, Japanese and Italian control..... except for North, Central and South America, could the Axis Powers eventually defeat it and usher in 1000 years of peace and prosperity?

Since most of the world's resources are now controlled by them, can they easily win the war too?
Depends what the US does in that time. US was not a military power at the start of the war, 20 years of neglect had taken it's toll when WWII broke out.

Take a scenario where the US doesn't enter WWII early, Germany doesn't turn on the USSR as said in the post, and they win Europe and then turn to the US together in force. No Pearl Harbor to get the US to go into overdrive production, (still ramped up but still wanting to be isolated). No push for the Manhattan project or pairing with Britain anymore (or very little putting us well behind). Germany with the resources to build it's best weapons and implement and refine them.

The US army was 19th in size, behind Portugal just before WWII, with 500 tanks. Didn't have a jeep even yet (were using a combination of horses, motorcycles, model T's etc). 4000 planes and while we had some newer designs like the B-17, biplanes were still a staple of our air corps. US was 41st in the world in airplane manufacturing when WWII broke out (1st 5 years later though).

And we hadn't fought in anything since WWI. 10k troops sent in support of the Russian Civil war in 1918/1919. But our military almost entirely inexperienced the previous 20 years.


What we had was the people, infrastructure and resources to ramp up production and become that world power quickly. US went from a military force of 200-300k to 11 million within 5 years. We had 5 aircraft carriers which was a strength but made 27 more during the war. 5000 planes to 80,000 in 5 years. Does that happen if the US isn't the battlefront? And would that even be enough?

If the Axis powers won earlier, or the US/Britain didn't start the manhattan project to build nuclear weapons by not being in the war yet and no Britain to work with (honestly Germany might be first to nuclear weapons if they won the war in Europe), I think the Axis would have had a really good shot at that. US would have been at a big disadvantage in terms of people, resources, ground/air/sea weapons and modernization. Isolation may have allowed the US to build an army and air force but depends how far we'd gotten in peace and who would ally with the US. But I wouldn't put money on the US coming out ok in that scenario.
 
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Jan 2015
2,657
MD, USA
#6
It's the "1000 years of peace and prosperity" that made me laugh! Because EVERY conquering power has gotten only love and cooperation from the people they crush and assimilate, right? Not to mention that whole exterminating everyone we don't like thing...

Mortari, I'm just not convinced the US would sit around with not even a Jeep while all its overseas allies were conquered. Especially if there were known Axis sympathizers in South America, etc. Would we just sit around, happily convinced that none of it was a threat?

Matthew