Dark Emu II: Precolonial Australian societies tilled the land

May 2011
2,925
Rural Australia
#21
" The canoes were used to transport goods and people, including surveyors and explorers, stock, feed and food.
It would be only reasonable to expect that during the precolonial time, such canoes had the capacity to connect the tribal societies associated with parts of river systems over great geographical areas. See the Australian river map at post # 15.

Canoe - Wikipedia

Constructed between 8200 and 7600 BC, and found in the Netherlands, the Pesse canoe may be the oldest known canoe. Excavations in Denmark reveal the use of dugouts and paddles during the Ertebølle period, (c. 5300–3950 BC).[5] Australian Aboriginal people made canoes using a variety of materials, including bark and hollowed out tree trunks.​
 
May 2011
2,925
Rural Australia
#24
The name Dark Emu is sourced from the Australian precolonial societies' knowledge of astronomy.

Australian Aboriginal astronomy - Wikipedia

Emu in the sky


The Aboriginal "Emu in the sky". In Western astronomy terms, the Southern Cross is on the right, and Scorpius on the left; the head of the emu is the Coalsack.

A constellation used in Aboriginal culture in Australia is the "Emu in the sky", a 'constellation' that is defined by dark nebulae (opaque clouds of dust and gas in outer space) that are visible against the Milky Way background, rather than by stars.[3] The Emu's head is the very dark Coalsack nebula, next to the Southern Cross; the body and legs are other dark clouds trailing out along the Milky Way to Scorpius.[3]

In Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park, north of Sydney, are extensive rock engravings of the Guringai people who lived there, including representations of the creator-hero Daramulan and his emu-wife. An engraving near the Elvina Track[4] shows an emu in the same pose and orientation as the Emu in the Sky constellation.

To the Wardaman, however, the Coalsack is the head of a lawman.[5]


https://arxiv.org/pdf/1607.02215.pdf
Dawes Review5: Australian Aboriginal Astronomy and Navigation
Ray P. Norris (2016)

Abstract

The traditional cultures of Aboriginal Australians include a significant astronomical component, perpetuated through oral tradition, ceremony, and art. This astronomical knowledge includes a deep understanding of the motion of objects in the sky, which was used for practical purposes such as constructing calendars and for navigation. There is also evidence that traditional Aboriginal Australians made careful records and measurements of cyclical phenomena, recorded unexpected phenomena such as eclipses and meteorite impacts, and could determine the cardinal points to an accuracy of a few degrees. Putative explanations of celestial phenomena appear throughout the oral record, suggesting traditional Aboriginal Australians sought to understand the natural world around them, in the same way as modern scientists, but within their own cultural context. There is also a growing body of evidence for sophisticated navigational skills, including the use of astronomically based songlines. Songlines are effectively oral maps of the landscape, and are an efficient way of transmitting oral navigational skills in cultures that do not have a written language. The study of Aboriginal astronomy has had an impact extending beyond mere academic curiosity, facilitating cross-cultural understanding, demonstrating the intimate links between science and culture, and helping students to engage with science.

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Ten years ago, most published knowledge of Aboriginal astronomy referred to songs and stories, but not to practical applications, navigation, or understanding the motion of celestialobjects.Very few peer-reviewed papers had been written, so that Aboriginal astronomy received little attention in mainstream anthropology. The published literature now shows unequivocally that traditional Aboriginal Australians were careful observers of the night sky, they had a deep knowledge of the sky, and their celestial knowledge played a major role in the culture, social structure, and oral traditions. Their knowledge went far beyond simply telling stories of the constellations. Instead, they appear to have been engaged in building self-consistent, but culturally appropriate, models that explained the phenomena observed in the sky. This search for understanding resembles modern-day science, and so is sometimes labelled ‘ethnoscience’. This knowledge also had practical applications, such as marking time and date, over scales ranging from hours to years, so that it could be used to communicate the dates of ceremonies, or mark when it was time to move camp to take advantage of seasonal food sources. Some Aboriginal groups also used it for navigation.​
 
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Aupmanyav

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
5,479
New Delhi, India
#25
canoe was also known in india, they constructed royal barges which was like a canoe, these barges were perhaps later emulated by the europeans.
That is at a much later time, but anicent Vedc myths (perhaps 10,000 years old) refer to 'navam' (canoe, ship) in Milky way galaxy (left, bottom) for use of ancestors (Pitris)

 
Mar 2019
1,463
KL
#26
interestingly here is what i read from the australian aboriginal astronomy wiki article as well

Australian Aboriginal astronomy - Wikipedia

Canoe in Orion
The Yolngu people of northern Australia say that the constellation of Orion, which they call Julpan (or Djulpan), is a canoe. They tell the story of three brothers who went fishing, and one of them ate a sawfish that was forbidden under their law. Seeing this, the Sun-woman, Walu, made a waterspout that carried him and his two brothers and their canoe up into the sky. The three suns that line in the constellation's centre, which form Orion's Belt in Western mythology, are the three brothers; the Orion Nebula above them is the forbidden fish; and the bright stars Betelgeuse and Rigel are the bow and stern of the canoe. This is an example of astronomical legends underpinning the ethical and social codes that people use on Earth.[6]
 

Aupmanyav

Ad Honorem
Jun 2014
5,479
New Delhi, India
#27
Well, the Indo-Aryan ship is not in Orion but in the Milky Way galaxy.We saw deer with pierced head in Orion. Some even saw Rudra (the God who pierced the head of the Supreme God, Prajapati) in Orion. Rudra merged with Shiva in later times.
 

specul8

Ad Honorem
Oct 2016
3,171
Australia
#28
interestingly here is what i read from the australian aboriginal astronomy wiki article as well

Australian Aboriginal astronomy - Wikipedia

We should also include this , seeing as people are making some comparisons ;


" The Pleiades also figures in the Dreamings of several language groups. For example, in the central desert region, they are said to be seven sisters fleeing from the unwelcome attentions of a man represented by some of the stars in Orion. The close resemblance of this to Greek mythology is believed to be coincidental — there is no evidence of any cultural connection.[6]

The Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation explain them in the Karatgurk story. Another story involves seven sisters, the Maya-Mayi who were so beautiful that a warrior, Warrumma, kidnaps two of them. They eventually escape by climbing a pine tree that continually grows up into the sky where they join their other sisters.[7]

However, stars were commonly used to measure time and the seasons and to regulate daily activities before written culture, and long after in some cultures. The myths of the Australian Aboriginal people are, as around the world, to do with moral lessons and various reminders such as when to eat certain types of food, which is itself a cultural connection in the general form of the stories. Therefore, the study of the stars is probably the oldest knowledge on earth, such that it remains an intriguing possibility that aboriginal star knowledge does contain some fragments of a much older original culture. Aboriginal people came to Australia from Asia 50,000 years ago (well before Greek culture formed 3,000–4,000 years ago), and presumably the Aboriginal people originally came from Africa. While there is no hard evidence of a cultural connection, the possibility should not be written off, and the door is open to research to construct models of older human cultures, through the tracing of these narratives and other means such as linguistics "

Australian Aboriginal astronomy - Wikipedia


and the emu rock art mentioned above :

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^ Barnaby Morris won an award for this picture , it was very hard to take and line up = right seasons, right weather , exposure, etc .


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Working Group on Australian Indigenous Astronomy (WGAIA) with two main goals: • to raise the profile of Australian Aboriginal astronomy, thereby contributing to greater cross-cultural understanding; • to use Aboriginal astronomy as a means of bringing astronomy to young people.

Figure 3. The Emu in the Sky by Barnaby Norris. Composed of dark clouds...
 
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Mar 2019
1,184
Kansas
#29
" The Pleiades also figures in the Dreamings of several language groups. For example, in the central desert region, they are said to be seven sisters fleeing from the unwelcome attentions of a man represented by some of the stars in Orion. The close resemblance of this to Greek mythology is believed to be coincidental — there is no evidence of any cultural connection.[6]
I have always been fascinated by that piece of dreaming. I went to a lecture on Aboriginal astronomy years ago, and the presenter tongue in cheek accused the Greeks of plagiarism :)
 

specul8

Ad Honorem
Oct 2016
3,171
Australia
#30
Well, it could be that kidnapping women is a human archetype recognised the world over :D

I like their plan in the 10 canoes story ;

Man 1. " They stole one of our women, we should go there and fight them and take her back .

Man 2. " Hmmm ... people might get injured, why not wait till the men out hunting and sneak in and take her back . "

Man 1. " Thats a good idea .... and while we at it, why not take one of their women too . "

Man 3. " Okay, we sneak in, when the men are not there, and we get our women back and we steal all their women . "

:D

Like most species - man is an opportunist .