Did 58.000 Americans die for wrong causes?

Oct 2018
5
Vietnam
#1
58k Americans died to prevent Vietnam from being unified.
58k Americans died to prevent communism from spreading, which ultimately didn't happen.
58k Americans died just for the Vietnamese communists to become a trade partner with the US 20 years later.

So, were their deaths wasted? Did they die for nothing?
 

Tulius

Ad Honorem
May 2016
5,453
Portugal
#2
58k Americans died to prevent Vietnam from being unified.
58k Americans died to prevent communism from spreading, which ultimately didn't happen.
58k Americans died just for the Vietnamese communists to become a trade partner with the US 20 years later.

So, were their deaths wasted? Did they die for nothing?
You already opened na thread with this theme Do you think that the US aggressively preventing Vietnam reunification justified?

You can post your perspective there and develop it.
 
Jun 2017
2,881
Connecticut
#3
58k Americans died to prevent Vietnam from being unified.
58k Americans died to prevent communism from spreading, which ultimately didn't happen.
58k Americans died just for the Vietnamese communists to become a trade partner with the US 20 years later.

So, were their deaths wasted? Did they die for nothing?
This is a touchy subject but in the consensus is yes and that was true at the time(in 1964 the overwhelming winner accused his opponent of wanting to escalate the war and in 1968 and 1972 both Presidential candidates opposed the war to differing extents) as well. This is why many tried to avoid serving either out of fear and/or moral opposition to the US campaign. This was the most unpopular war in US history and caused all the drama of 1968 the modern US version of 1848.

If you are expecting Americans to strongly disagree with you, you're going to have to look pretty hard. Most neo cons who don't regret supporting Vietnam are both pretty old and pretty quiet about that, Vietnam having been a bad idea might be the only foreign policy question that the electorate might split 90-10% plus on today.
 
Sep 2018
37
America
#5
How about the 116,000 Americans who died in France to save Serbia from being annexed by Austria/Hungary? Or, if you prefer the other explanation, to avenge the 128 American who were killed when the Lusitania was sunk. Also keep in mind that our involvement in WWI only lasted 2 years, so the death-tole was something on the order of 20x what we suffered in Vietnam. And what about the 400,000 who died in WWII, to "Make the world safe for democracy?" (Whatever that means) We made the world safe for democracy by turning half of Europe into a communist prison camp. And don`t forget the trillion dollars we`ve spent trying to turn a tribal, theocratic society into a secular representative democracy. How about the 258,000 Confederate war dead, who died to protect an economic system that didn`t benefit most of the people actually doing the fighting? War is a racket....
 
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