Did German voters know before 1933 that Hitler was going to create a dictatorship?

pugsville

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The German citizenry as a whole would have been because the Weimar Republic was essentially set up for failure. They were only allowed to come to power and run Germany in the first place so that they could take the fall for losing The Great War. They were literally faced with the task of Reconstruction,
If hwat way reconstruction there was almost no war damage in Germany. Some disloctaion and problems do to border chnages. But there was no the massive devastation ike there was in France,

which was extremely difficult because the Reparations they were faced with dangerously hurt their economy.
The reparations were no huge, and Germany acrually paid very little paymets start in 1922 and are resturcted twice (Dawes in 1924, Young in 1929) and suspended before HItler came into Power. France and Birtian were paying more in war debt to the USA. It was less than Germany was spending on arms before 1914. How did repartions dangerously hurt the german ecnomy? France had massive damages to it';s most productive regions, heavier per capita losses , widows , war cripples, and was paying heavy debts to the USA, (it had debts to Britian nbut basically did nothing there) Arguable France was in worse Shape. German problems in the 1920s were largely self made.

So much so, that they became dependent on US aid to keep it afloat. Aid which was cut off when the U.S. was hit with the Great Depression.
They were not dependant on US Aid. They did get US loans. There were not massive loands. But they refused to rise taxes.

The Weimar Republic never really had a chance because Germany was forced to take the brunt of the blame for The Great War, and anyone tasked with rebuilding the state was fighting an uphill battle.

This meant is was extremely easy for any new party to come in and gain support because it made sense that any party was going to perform better than the one currently in power.
Parties on both the Right and Left were opposed to teh exisistance of the Wiemar Republic. After I think 1922 they were close to a majority in the Reich stag.
 

stevev

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They probably didn't know, but didn't care because of high unemployment and disorder with the street fighting between the Nazis and the Communists. When Hitler became chancellor and declared a state of emergency, the majority probably appreciated some return to order. Government deficit spending produced jobs and the comprehensive (totalitarian) ordering of society through NSDAP run organizations met with widespread favor. There was no established tradition of democracy in Germany at the time.
 
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pugsville

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They probably didn't know, but didn't care because of high unemployment and disorder with the street fighting between the Nazis and the Communists. When Hitler became chancellor and declared a state of emergency, the majority probably appreciated some return to order. Government deficit spending produced jobs and the comprehensive (totalitarian) ordering of society through NSDAP run organizations met with widespread favor. There was no established tradition of democracy in Germany at the time.
Yeah but even after Hitler had been chancel;lor for 8 months and the Police and Storm troopers had worked togrther on teh streets to estblish "order" , the communists supressed, banned, beaten, Hit;ler and the NAzis could not get a majority of votes in an election held under there riegn of street violence gainst any opposition.,

"Wideepdread favour" still was not a majority of the population.
 
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Futurist

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Yeah but even after Hitler had been chancel;lor for 8 months and the Police and Storm troopers had worked togrther on teh streets to estblish "order" , the communists supressed, banned, beaten, Hit;ler and the NAzis could not get a majority of votes in an election held under there riegn of street violence gainst any opposition.,

"Wideepdread favour" still was not a majority of the population.
To be fair, though, a vote for the DNVP was almost a vote for Hitler since the DNVP were eager to form of a coalition with Hitler. The Nazis plus the DNVP won a bare majority of the total vote in the 1933 German elections.
 

pugsville

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To be fair, though, a vote for the DNVP was almost a vote for Hitler since the DNVP were eager to form of a coalition with Hitler. The Nazis plus the DNVP won a bare majority of the total vote in the 1933 German elections.
They already had formed an coalition with Hitler. In an atmosphere of violence and terror against the KPD, SPD and others.

German federal election, March 1933 - Wikipedia

"The election took place after the Nazis came to power on 30 January, when President Paul von Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor. The latter immediately urged the dissolution of the Reichstag and the calling of new elections. In early February, the Nazis "unleashed a campaign of violence and terror that dwarfed anything seen so far." Stormtroopers began attacking trade union and Communist Party (KPD) offices and the homes of left-wingers.[1]:317

In the second half of February, the violence was extended to the Social Democrats, with gangs of brownshirts breaking up Social Democrat meetings and beating up their speakers and audiences. Issues of Social Democratic newspapers were banned.[1]:318–320 Twenty newspapers of the Centre Party, a party of Catholic Germans, were banned in mid-February for criticizing the new government. Government officials known to be Centre Party supporters were dismissed from their offices, and stormtroopers violently attacked party meetings in Westphalia.[1]:322 Only the Nazis and DNVP were allowed to campaign unmolested."
 
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Futurist

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They already had formed an coalition with Hitler. In an atmosphere of violence and terror against the KPD, SPD and others.

German federal election, March 1933 - Wikipedia

"The election took place after the Nazis came to power on 30 January, when President Paul von Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor. The latter immediately urged the dissolution of the Reichstag and the calling of new elections. In early February, the Nazis "unleashed a campaign of violence and terror that dwarfed anything seen so far." Stormtroopers began attacking trade union and Communist Party (KPD) offices and the homes of left-wingers.[1]:317

In the second half of February, the violence was extended to the Social Democrats, with gangs of brownshirts breaking up Social Democrat meetings and beating up their speakers and audiences. Issues of Social Democratic newspapers were banned.[1]:318–320 Twenty newspapers of the Centre Party, a party of Catholic Germans, were banned in mid-February for criticizing the new government. Government officials known to be Centre Party supporters were dismissed from their offices, and stormtroopers violently attacked party meetings in Westphalia.[1]:322 Only the Nazis and DNVP were allowed to campaign unmolested."
Yeah, so basically, a bare majority of the Germans voted for the Nazis and their DNVP allies in early 1933 after a campaign of coercion against the other German parties.
 
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Certainly those in the party should have known, I;ve read they went to the Rich industrialists with the line give generously for this election they will not be any more elections after this.
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From what I read the "rich industrialists" of the time needed no prompting. They supported the Nazis and wanted to see them take control of Germany on their own accord.

https://www.bbc.com/bitesize/guides/zpknb9q/revision/2
 
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pugsville

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From what I read the "rich industrialists" of the time needed no prompting. They supported the Nazis and wanted to see them take control of Germany on their own accord.

https://www.bbc.com/bitesize/guides/zpknb9q/revision/2
Reading a book on the German economic mangament during ww1. A number of the the Large Industrialists had a pretty extreme political view, being sympathetic to a right wing dictatorship pre dating the End of the war, and quite possibly before the start. They were pretty unhappy with even the lmited prussian style democracy and even feared changes to the voting to make it more equal, fearing socialism and unions, and where horrid=fiied th=at various war measures with worker represenatationof various commitees would transitiuon to the post war world.
 
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