Did the "Jewish exodus" from Babylon actually happen?

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AlpinLuke

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The "Empire" [chiefdom would be a more suitable definition] of Solomon obtained aid from Phoenicians to build the Temple in Jerusalem [according to the Bible].

This tells us that Solomon had no control on Phoenician cities and that he had to ask for help to those cities.
 
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Herodotus only lists Palestinians, Phoenicians and Syrians , but 'Phoenicians' and 'Syrians' are actually missing in the Old Testament.

Syria is called 'Arm' (Armenia? ) , the name 'Phoenicia' doesn't appear anywhere in the Old Testament , only the Palestinians and Canaanites are known.
Archaeologists have also confused the name 'Syria' (Sir-il-la-la) with the name 'Israel' ,most likely deliberately since everything is biased in Israel.

Herodotus also claims Colchians whom practised circumcision was an Egyptian monarch whom set up a colony there, but 'Jewish' circumcision, is rather different to Ancient Egyptian circumcision, as they performed it on Adults, not infant-boys.

The 'Judeans' in Elephantine have duel identities, 'Aramaean' (Armenia?) and 'Yehud' ,

The Book of Esther, claims 'Esther' was a Jew, with the pseudonymous Jewish name 'Hadassah' from Persian 'Atossa / Hutaosā ' , so she was a Persian-Zoroastrian, but called a 'Jew', if that is the case, then 'Jew' and 'Zoroastrian;' must have being the same people.

Yahad in Hebrew, means 'United, joined together', thus 'colony / colonists' ' , so they where Persian Colonists (Yahad / Yehud ) in Elephantine , which is exactly what it was.
 
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AlpinLuke

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Herodotus only lists Palestinians, Phoenicians and Syrians , but 'Phoenicians' and 'Syrians' are actually missing in the Old Testament.

Syria is called 'Arm' (Armenia? ) , the name 'Phoenicia' doesn't appear anywhere in the Old Testament , only the Palestinians and Canaanites are known.
Archaeologists have also confused the name 'Syria' (Sir-il-la-la) with the name 'Israel' ,most likely deliberately since everything is biased in Israel.

Herodotus also claims Colchians whom practised circumcision was an Egyptian monarch whom set up a colony there, but 'Jewish' circumcision, is rather different to Ancient Egyptian circumcision, as they performed it on Adults, not infant-boys.

The 'Judeans' in Elephantine have duel identities, 'Aramaean' (Armenia?) and 'Yehud' ,

The Book of Esther, claims 'Esther' was a Jew, with the pseudonymous Jewish name 'Hadassah' from Persian 'Atossa / Hutaosā ' , so she was a Persian-Zoroastrian, but called a 'Jew', if that is the case, then 'Jew' and 'Zoroastrian;' must have being the same people.

Yahad in Hebrew, means 'United, joined together', thus 'colony / colonists' ' , so they where Persian Colonists (Yahad / Yehud ) in Elephantine , which is exactly what it was.
The king Hiram Abiff is mentioned in the Bible [he was the king of Tyre]. The term "Phoenician" is not native, it's a Greek definition.
 
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The king Hiram Abiff is mentioned in the Bible [he was the king of Tyre]. The term "Phoenician" is not native, it's a Greek definition.

King Hiram Abiff isn't mentioned in the Bible, the Hiram King of tyre in the story of David-Solomon, doesn't have any external reference to him or any historical framework and most likely based on the later Hiram II , or Hiram III during the time of the Persian Empire .
 

AlpinLuke

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King Hiram Abiff isn't mentioned in the Bible, the Hiram King of tyre in the story of David-Solomon, doesn't have any external reference to him or any historical framework and most likely based on the later Hiram II , or Hiram III during the time of the Persian Empire .
2 Samuel 5:11

Now Hiram king of Tyre sent envoys to David, along with cedar logs and carpenters and stonemasons, and they built a palace for David.
1 Kings 5:1

When Hiram king of Tyre heard that Solomon had been anointed king to succeed his father David, he sent his envoys to Solomon, because he had always been on friendly terms with David.
That "Abiff" is an interpolation, but Hiram the King of Tyre is in the Scriptures.
 
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2 Samuel 5:11



1 Kings 5:1



That "Abiff" is an interpolation, but Hiram the King of Tyre is in the Scriptures.
What is the ethnic difference between King David & King Hiram

Who is Hiram?
Phoenicians did establish many trading and Naval colonies across the Mediterranean such as Crete dating to the first millennium B.C.E.

There was also a 'King Salmoneus' , King of Elis who founded the City of Salmone
in Pisatis and he was the father of 'Tyro' (= Tyre) , Any connection?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmoneus

Solomon built the temple of 'Solomon' in the City of Salem (Ire-Salem), this would
would interpret 'City of Solomon' , this is Hellenistic typology, 'Salmoneus' founded City of Salmon, his son, 'Tyro' founded Tyre. Are these stories Greek myths.
 
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