Does the glorification of Latvian Waffen SS Legion mean the glorification of Nazism?

Sep 2014
693
Zahumlje
No. Not everyone fought for national socialism, some people fought because they had no alternative, and others saw that as only go at freedom.
 
Sep 2014
77
Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia
I think this is quite the challenging question with no easy answer. It is a problem which Ukraine also grapples to this day. 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Ukrainian)

Though the Galizien Division has not been found guilty of any war crimes by any war tribunal or commission, numerous unproven accusations of impropriety have been leveled at the division and at particular members of the division from a variety of sources.

Many countries, especially America and Germany, do investigate, prosecute and deport those who collaborated with the Nazis in the mass genocide of civilians. Many of these alleged war criminals are now quite advanced in age. Recent Ukrainian-American immigrants to be investigated and/or prosecuted include [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Demjanjuk]John Demjanuk[/ame] and [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Karkoc]Michael Karkoc[/ame].
 
Apr 2011
6,626
Sarmatia
The Norwegians, French or Dutch are not gloryfying their SS veterans. However I understand that Baltic states were in different position.
 

Maribat

Ad Honorem
Mar 2012
5,049
"For many, Nazis are the bumbling, comic figures of "Hogans Heroes," outwitted by clever American POWs. Or George Lincoln Rockwell, the nutty head of the American Nazi party, who was himself Jewish.

There's little of what we see in Paris, where plaques on school buildings commemorate the deaths of deported French children. Or Riga, where remnants of the Nazi regime are on parade.

What should we do? What can we do?
" (from the startopic article - writes an American)

For starters stop supporting SS lovers in Ukraine
 

diddyriddick

Historum Emeritas
May 2009
14,692
A tiny hamlet in the Carolina Sandhills
While I don't support or agree with their viewpoint, I'm not prepared to issue a blanket indictment against people who fought in the Waffen-SS merely because they were Waffen-SS. They may have been tenacious on the battlefield and there certainly were specific cases of human rights violations, but I've yet to see any evidence of institutional war crimes for which an individual should be held accountable.

The Allgemeine-SS is an entirely different story.
 

beorna

Ad Honoris
Jan 2010
17,473
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While I don't support or agree with their viewpoint, I'm not prepared to issue a blanket indictment against people who fought in the Waffen-SS merely because they were Waffen-SS. They may have been tenacious on the battlefield and there certainly were specific cases of human rights violations, but I've yet to see any evidence of institutional war crimes for which an individual should be held accountable.

The Allgemeine-SS is an entirely different story.
Why is the Allgemeine SS an entirely different story?
As somebody with relatives in the Waffen-SS I am far from a general damnation of Waffen-SS or SS-members, but a glorification is hardly justifiable. For the Baltic states there is perhaps a complex situation existing. Their fight was first of all one for independence from the SU. In these fight they became part of the German war and occupation machine and perpetrators and co-perpetrators of many crimes.
So maybe we should discuss their history here first and then make conclusions and assessments!?
 

diddyriddick

Historum Emeritas
May 2009
14,692
A tiny hamlet in the Carolina Sandhills
Why is the Allgemeine SS an entirely different story?
As somebody with relatives in the Waffen-SS I am far from a general damnation of Waffen-SS or SS-members, but a glorification is hardly justifiable. For the Baltic states there is perhaps a complex situation existing. Their fight was first of all one for independence from the SU. In these fight they became part of the German war and occupation machine and perpetrators and co-perpetrators of many crimes.
So maybe we should discuss their history here first and then make conclusions and assessments!?
I think that would be a viable thread topic, but would probably hijack this particular thread.
:)